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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:11 am to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:11 am to
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Troops killed in their barracks


Unless struck by a middle this should never happen. There is t a larger security failure than letting a threat reach where troops sleep.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:11 am to
And/or “just” firing rockets. This is much, much more significant than anything between the two certainly in recent history, and likely beyond. And why not now, eh? Israel’s strongest ally is out to lunch on being an effective ally as long as useless joe is the CiC. And no I’m not necessarily talking about NATO type alliance wherein we’re now obligated to enter the fray militarily, but there are other aspects of the alliance that causes deterrence.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:15 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:13 am to
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imagine the response from Israel is going to be immense.


Well trained and well armed with the “never again” card ready to use. Images of smoldering Muslim rubble in a couple days.

Those Israeli kidnap victims are as good as dead if they aren’t already. Muslims don’t negotiate. Their price will probably be “get out of Israel or else”.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:16 am to
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If you can’t see the dangers I’m warning about, you should go shopping the next time a “mostly peaceful protest” breaks out. There is a reason unaccompanied fighting age males with an 80 IQ have been pouring across our borders at 10,000 per day for 6 months.


Again, MoMo isn't coming to get you.

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You should expand your world view beyond what you are being told by NPR.

Into insanity and boomer anxiety? No thanks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:17 am to
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Muslims don’t negotiate.

Hamas negotiates with Israel all the time and has for 50+ years.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:20 am to
The way this usually works:

Israel attacked. Israelis dying. . .crickets

Israel defends itself. . .OMG GENOCIIIIIDE. . . .ZIONISM. . . .APARTHEID STATE!!!!!! OPPRESSION!!!!!

Israel is the white bystander near the BLM protest.
Posted by Bourre
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:21 am to
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This is complete horseshite and you know it. Hamas is funded by Iran which is allied with Russia


You yet again prove to be a fricking idiot. Your boy Biden just gave Iran 6 billion in cash. You, Biden , and your leftist comrades are just as responsible as Hamas.

Good job, dickweed
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:21 am to
Watching the news on this and reading about it, this feels a bit different. Is this the beginning of something bigger and are their other players in this other than Hamas?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:21 am to
Right, but still those weapons need to move through ArB countries in order to get to Gaza. I doubt Abdullah in Jordan would be stupid enough to allow weapons to flow through his territory without him intercepting.I know in the past a lot was smuggled in through tunnels on the border with Sinai and I suspect by sea.

Time to cutoff Gaza entirely. I'm not going to care one bit if Israel lays seige to Gaza and starves them out. Hamas bought it, now they have to live....or die with it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
471354 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:22 am to
quote:

Israel attacked. Israelis dying. . .crickets

Israel defends itself. . .OMG GENOCIIIIIDE. . . .ZIONISM. . . .APARTHEID STATE!!!!!! OPPRESSION!!!!!

Yes.

Like I said earlier, all Hamas leadership cares about is provoking a response so that innocent Palestinians are killed.

And just to avoid confusion from the smooth brains, "innocent" means with relationship to Hamas. Lots of Arabs in Israel who have no association with Hamas are about to get killed and have family killed. That's exactly what Hamas wants in these scenarios.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27660 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:23 am to
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Hamas negotiates with Israel all the time and has for 50+ years.


Do they really? Is there any good faith between either?

“frick me? No frick YOU!!!” Is a strategy. Not a good one though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
471354 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:23 am to
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this feels a bit different.

I imagine this has to do with all the apocalypse fetishizing going on since 2020.

quote:

Is this the beginning of something bigger

No

quote:

and are their other players in this other than Hamas?

Iran, if you separate them from Hamas (and you shouldn't).
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:23 am to
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USA needs to stay out of this.

Sit back and let Israel handle its shite without interference.


That's a joke right? We support Ukraine with funding and weapons and they aren't in any way an ally.

But we should stay out of it with Israel, an actual ally..
Posted by Taketts
Member since Feb 2023
139 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:24 am to
I'm seeing several people with muslim sounding names celebrating on social media. These are the same people trying to get to Europe illegally by sea. Integration is simply not possible.

There seems to have been a massive frickup by Mossad and the IDF here. Some questions will have to be answered. As for the response, nothing short of a full invasion of the Gaza strip will be sufficient this time.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6492 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:25 am to
With their intelligence operations, i cant believe they disnt see this coming.
Unless they allowed it so they could really wipe out gaza.
But its hard for me to believ the latter
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:25 am to
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Yes.

Like I said earlier, all Hamas leadership cares about is provoking a response so that innocent Palestinians are killed.

And just to avoid confusion from the smooth brains, "innocent" means with relationship to Hamas. Lots of Arabs in Israel who have no association with Hamas are about to get killed and have family killed. That's exactly what Hamas wants in these scenarios.
But at the same time, Israel can't just do nothing while Hamas is ACTUALLY attempting genocide
Posted by pbro62
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:25 am to
Go back to sleep you stupid frick
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6273 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:26 am to
How does Israel declare war on Hamas In reality? It’s not another country, per se, but a subgroup within a population. It’s a very difficult situation. You can’t just level the Gaza Strip without killing hundreds of non-combatants. The cowards in Hamas know this, of course. Israel will have to just accept being the “bad guy” here and do what must be done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
471354 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:26 am to
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We support Ukraine with funding and weapons and they aren't in any way an ally.

They were on the verge of becoming an ally (via EU membership) until Putin interfered to thwart that

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But we should stay out of it with Israel, an actual ally..

Israel doesn't need our military help today b/c we subsidize their existence and have for a long time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471354 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:26 am to
quote:

But at the same time, Israel can't just do nothing while Hamas is ACTUALLY attempting genocide

Oh I am not saying Israel should go quietly into the night.
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