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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:21 pm to
Holy frickin shite.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:24 pm to
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And what the heck is your point? Have you ever heard of false beliefs?


Of course I think BoM is false, that Judaism and Islam are false religion.

Your trying to put "facts" into faith based argumentation isn't reasonable. Were there such "facts" there'd be no call to Faith.

Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:31 pm to
Jesus indulged Thomas when he needed proof to believe.

Evidence reinforces faith and can be tremendously helpful to those who want to believe but are Thomases.

It is certainly helpful to have evidence-based show-and-tell items such as archeological findings. It is encouraging for all, believer and possible believer! As a believer, it's an 'I told you so' moment. For the possible believer, it is one more finger through a wound.

I have not seen any evidence at all for anything in the BoM or the Koran. None! So false beliefs they are in my book.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:31 pm to
I am pretty sure Israel is just trolling (or co-opting Kirk's movement for their own ends). Kirk certainly wasn't anti-semitic but he wasn't some crusader for Jewish causes either.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:33 pm to
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Judeo-Christian is a term originally speaking to jewish converts to Christianity and then evolved to a political term shoe-horning two opposing religions into a sloppy group for geo-political purposes in war time and beyond.

Way, way wrong

Judaism is the one true religion

It was the ONLY religion that survived antiquity, where they served one God only
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Deuteronomy 6:4

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord

It was practiced by Abram, who was favored for his belief. From him came many religions. The only one that stayed true to the belief that Christ was the Messiah, was Christianity. It replaced Judaism as the one true religion

The first 300 years of Christianity was led by Jewish leaders. The gentiles took over the church under Roman rule. Yet still they recognized Jesus as the Messiah. So to be a TRUE Christian, you have to accept that the laws of the prophets are the foundation of the one true church

There have been detours, Islam, Mormonism, Catholicism, and Protestantism, but to trace your belief back through Catholicism and Christ, you absolutely must go thru Judaism to get to where you are

There is no other path. Judeo-Christian. Gentiles were not the receivers of the Messiah. Only the Jews. You simply cannot cut them out of the origins. That dog wont hunt
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:35 pm to
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It is certainly helpful to have evidence-based show-and-tell items such as archeological findings. It is encouraging for all, believer and possible believer! As a believer, it's an 'I told you so' moment. For the possible believer, it is one more finger through a wound.


I totally agree with this and love learning about Biblical Archeology.

As I have not studied mormanism or islam, I don't know what they have for their show and tells.

The more I learn about the world and all it contains the stronger my Faith is. I am glad we have that in common.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:35 pm to
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have not seen any evidence at all for anything in the BoM or the Koran. None! So false beliefs they are in my book.


You're still missing the point entirely.

Again, you do not get to tell people whether their beliefs are valid or invalid. How can you possibly still be misunderstanding this?

You do not get to tell Muslims, for instance, who they worship and who they do not worship.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:37 pm to
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There is no other path. Judeo-Christian. Gentiles were not the receivers of the Messiah. Only the Jews. You simply cannot cut them out of the origins. That dog wont hunt


The Bible itself states one need not become Jewish to then become Christian.

Again, I view the Bible in its entirety. Never stated otherwise.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:47 pm to
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Did Allah have a son?!?! Is he the Messiah? Nope, just another prophet.


Allah means God.

The same God. Different prophets. Gets worse if you venture into the different types Islam
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:48 pm to
[quote]come again?[/quote

I love it when she says that.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:50 pm to
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Yikes! You really think the avalanche of muzzies in western countries is the fault of the Jews?!?!! Wow!


I’m confident you’ll get there haha.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:51 pm to
I have 3 grandsons who are Catholic. They live in Kansas and they are all uncircumcis

That really is nasty.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Again, I view the Bible in its entirety. Never stated otherwise.

The you should easily understand what the founders of Christianity (Jews) said about gentiles becoming Jewish
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17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[b] of the olive tree

18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.

19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in."

Its not the branches (that came later), but its the root that "feeds" all gentiles

Hence all gentiles being actually Judeo-Christian in Gods eyes
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:59 pm to
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Hence all gentiles being actually Judeo-Christian in Gods eyes


Judeo-Christian is a recent nomenclature.

The NT states Christians do not need to conform to Judaic customs in order to be saved by grace not by works.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:06 pm to
I didn’t realize dudes were not getting circumcised as much.

I hope women like the alligator claw look.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:10 pm to
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I hope women like the alligator claw look.


When erect, they aren't much different.

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an erect uncircumcised penis often looks very similar to a circumcised one because the foreskin naturally retracts, exposing the glans (head) of the penis, making it appear largely the same as a circumcised penis where the glans is always exposed, though the foreskin might still leave a small rim or look bulkier when fully retracted.

The primary visual difference is in the non-erect (flaccid) state, where the uncircumcised penis has a retractable foreskin covering the tip, while the circumcised penis has its glans permanently uncovered
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:18 pm to
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The NT states Christians do not need to conform to Judaic customs in order to be saved by grace not by works.

HUGE difference between customs and laws

You are required to follow the law of the prophets in order to see Heaven. But circumcision, sabbath observation, passover, leavened bread, kosher . . . . all customs

But to act like the one God belief, adultery, murder, theft, perjury are optional, because they have Jewish origins, aint a workable thesis

You are Judeo-Christian if you claim to be Christian
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Manuel de Lacunza y Diaz’s “The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty.” Lacunza (1731–1801) was a Jesuit priest who wrote under the pseudonym Juan Josafat Ben-Ezra:

Lacunza, p. 108, would not understand that the Apocalypt [sic] had asserted this enthronement of the souls of the Gentile and Judaeo-Christian Martyrs which he beheld in the train or suite of the descending Messiah.

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The second sense of Judeo-Christian relates to those values and customs shared by Judaism and Christianity. The Oxford English Dictionary has a quotation in this sense from January 1881 from Dickinson’s Theological Quarterly:

They have learned in their studies that pure and complete theism never existed, in a general manner, save in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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19444 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:19 pm to
You aren’t erect all day.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:21 pm to
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But circumcision, sabbath observation, passover, leavened bread, kosher . . . . all customs


Sabbath (Day) Observation is a commandment. No where was that a "custom". All ten commandments stand or they don't.


Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:22 pm to
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You aren’t erect all day.


Yeah, but you aren't walking around with your twig out all day either.

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