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re: It’s been 13 days without a murder in DC.

Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
11937 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Citizens are allowed to protect themselves.


Not without being prosecuted for doing so. Not in these cities.

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Which court cases?


Michael Giles, Ronald Stolarczyk, Daniel Penny, Jaleel Stallings, Kenneth Walker, etc.

Yeah, some of those people were acquitted (some weren't), but they still had to go to trial and defend themselves at great cost.

Oh, and here's one near and dear to your heart: Women Face Longer Sentences For Self Defense

Bottom line, if the solution to violent crime that the state decides to lean into is allowing citizens to defend themselves, they have to relax prosecutions on citizens who actually do it to some significant degree. You can't say that's the solution and then have DAs everywhere prosecuting first and forcing these people to have to defend themselves in court.

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My “solution” Is to prevent crime.


How do you suggest that be done? I'm pretty sure that research shows that increasing law enforcement presence works very well to accomplish that goal.

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Do you believe DC is free from crime forever now? What do you anticipated crime rates will be when the NG is removed? It will stay at zero until the second coming?


I have said from the beginning that I think Trump is doing this to show American citizens just how possible it is to clean these cities up and to provide a contrast in the hopes that citizens will elect mayors and governors who care about creating order rather than putting men in women's locker rooms (and vice versa).

In other words, I think it's a political strategy to motivate citizens to demand the governance that we deserve instead of what we're getting now with regard to crime.

I think this is going to generate a lot of positive personal testimonials from individuals who live in high crime neighborhoods. Not everyone who lives in the 'hood likes crime. Lots of people do not like it and wish they didn't have to live up to their neck in it. And they're going to be grateful because they care about their safety more than partisan political objections. This is how Trump made such inroads with black and Hispanic people.

Your attitude is exactly why the Democrats lost. Y'all haven't learned a thing.

Now, are you now saying that you object to this because it's only a temporary fix. That's a pivot. Up to now your objections have been on the basis of Constitutional overreach (well, actually you first objected on the basis of your feels, then you pivoted to the Constitution.)

Which is it?

And even if it is temporary, there's a bunch of people who would otherwise be victimized that won't be for as long as it lasts. It's illogical to oppose it on that basis. I would be in favor of an abortion ban even if it only lasted six months. I wouldn't say, "Screw that, it's not permanent." I'd hope for it to become permanent, sure, but in the meantime I'd be grateful for the babies it saved. It would illogical not to.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134090 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:35 pm to
You were all on this board supporting government overreach and now you're gonna pretend to wring your hands and act like you've just been this principled person this entire time?

Unless I'm completely getting you mixed up (if I am, sorry), I remember you being pro-vax, pro-mask, pro-democrat action the last 4 years,


If not you, who was it? I'm sure someone can find the receipts
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
11937 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:38 pm to
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You keep pretending that this issue is simply about the federal government “enforcing laws.” You know very well that is not the crux of this issue.


No, I don't know that.

What I see is major municipalities refusing to enforce laws effectively and allowing a lot more violent crime than is necessary or reasonable. I see Trump demonstrating that we can do much better.

If that's not what it's about, then tell me what it's about. Other than TDS. I look at people like you complaining about reducing violent crime and all I can see is terminal TDS.

Did you object when Bill Clinton signed his Crime Bill in the 90s? If not, why not?

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That’s just the only way you can frame this to fit your narrative that small government types advocate for the federal government interfering with municipal affairs.


That's literally what it is. If your argument is that the wrong sector of government is the one doing what the lower sector should have done, were you opposed to the President deploying the National Guard and federal agents in the 60s to enforce civil rights laws and prevent Jim Crow mechanisms? If not, why not?

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Like you repeating that the federal government is simply enforcing laws and not exercising government overreach.


No, not like that. The difference is that I have provided links and other rationales for why it's not an overreach. All you've done is repeat that it's an overreach and a link to the Constitution. I've provided an actual substantiated argument. You haven't.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17021 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Those are just local PD, not soldiers.


That’s Homeland Security per their patches.

They are probably there just watching over federal buildings like the IRS building on Poydras St or similar.

But Ms Emotion 247 sees them and believes they are PTSD ridden gulf war soldiers about to spin their tank turret around and take down the superdome.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60188 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:14 pm to
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trinidadtiger


I thought of you while I was doing yard work earlier. Snapped this to show you.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:19 pm to
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Have you been to a city hosting the Super Bowl beforea Super Bowl somewhat recently? Or New Orleans during MG in the last few years? Walking around town next to military carrying machine guns and literal tanks is unsettling. Living under what looks like military occupation should feel uncomfortable.


Living under an unsafe criminal occupation should be FAR more uncomfortable than living under a safe "looks like" military occupation.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4263 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:27 pm to
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That’s great. Being around strangers with machine guns does not make me feel safe, especially considering the mental health crisis within the military


Bruh, they got M240's?

Awesome!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:28 pm to
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since the only two options are military or lawlessness.


What is the other option? Liberals are for lawlessness. What should conservatives do about that?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:30 pm to
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I’m old school. Similar to our founding fathers, I don’t trust the government


When have you not trusted liberal leadership?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Who is angry?


Liberals everywhere are angry about conservatives trying to decrease CRIME.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
36889 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:33 pm to
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I said walking around with military carrying machine guns next to tanks is unsettling. You know this because you quoted what I wrote but are mischaracterizing it… it’s almost as if you know that walking alongside military tanks on a public street not located in an active war zone is uncomfortable.



Well, your lack of knowledge of the military is evident...I walked around NOLA Super Bowl weekend and did my traditional walk down Bourbon on Mardi Gras Friday. I didn't see a single 60-ton Abrams Main Battle Tank or a 25-ton Bradley Fighting Vehicle. I did see a few up armored HMVEEs. The Guardsmen I saw and talked to were carrying pistols and/or M-4 rifles. Didn't see any Squad Automatic Weapons or heavy machine guns.

I talked to a lot of them as I made my way to Lafitte's for a Purple Drank. All of them were very well-mannered and I was very proud of them.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:36 pm to
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there must have been very little crime before tanks were invented.


Another nonsensical liberal post:

The tank was invented before August 13th, 2025, so why was crime so high in DC? Weak liberals want it that way.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:37 pm to
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ou must be in favor of the military occupying every city and town.


Only dangerous liberal cities need such assistance because they keep voting weak liberals in as their leaders.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:38 pm to
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conservatives trying to decrease CRIME.


you mean one guy changing the subject from Epstein? amazing how quickly he psy-oped y’all out of caring about that.

though small government libertarian conservative cheering this on is funny. i remember not that long ago they called them selves the new counter culture
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15622 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Apparently they were “armored vehicles.”


That’s not a tank. You lied and you knew you were lying when you said you saw tanks in the street.

You also lied about them carrying “machine guns”. You most likely saw them carrying M4’s. You know some municipalities also issue the police M4 Rifles? I’ve seen NYPD carrying them around Times Square and Rockefeller Center.

Of course it’s possible you didn’t lie and you are just a dumbass who doesn’t know what a tank or machine gun looks like.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60188 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:19 pm to
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You were all on this board supporting government overreach and now you're gonna pretend to wring your hands and act


Link the posts of me supporting government overreach. They don’t exist.

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I remember you being pro-vax, pro-mask, pro-democrat action the last 4 years,


None of this is accurate. People say I’m pro-abortion pro-dem and pro trans and I’m an atheist and I’m a 600 lbs purple haired lonely cat lady. Someone posting something on the internet doesn’t make it true.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60188 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:21 pm to
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When have you not trusted liberal leadership?


The last time I trusted any leadership was when GWB sold us the WMD story.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:22 pm to
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The last time I trusted any leadership was when GWB sold us the WMD story.


Zero chance you didn’t trust the Obama cartel
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142512 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:24 pm to
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The last time I trusted any leadership was when GWB sold us the WMD story.


The same three letter agencies that get you so lathered up to hate Trump are the same people that sold the WMD story to W.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60188 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:28 pm to
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Mental illness in the military? What a stretch


How many veterans commit suicide every day? And you want to pretend our military is mentally sound? That’s not a dig either. The government you love so much uses the enlisted, spits them out and hangs them up to dry. Its inexcusable.
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