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re: Jesus was NOT a Refugee
Posted on 12/31/22 at 8:30 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 12/31/22 at 8:30 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
it was in an earlier thread a few days ago, but yes.
Be satisfied with the win here.
You nailed it with an early post.
Credit where credit's due.
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 8:33 pm to geauxbrown
quote:
Contrary to the commercial that just aired during the TCU/Michigan game.
Yeah that commercial pissed me right the frick off. propaganda to make us feel sorry for those law breaking border crossers. I don’t care what you are fleeing you do not have a right to be here that is reserved for citizens sorry don’t care
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:24 pm to geauxbrown
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Jesus was NOT a Refugee
He kind of sort of was if you read Matthew. Born in Bethlehem and escape to Egypt to avoid murder by king Herod. Years later Jesus Mary and Joseph came back to Israel to Nazareth.
He was NOT a refugee if you believe the Luke nativity account.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:45 pm to Between TheHedges
quote:On what then? The so called “lost” gospels of Thomas, Judas, and Peter? Dale Brown’s novels?
But most of what the Chruch spouts and the 4 “canonical “ gospels spew about him are total fabrications
If you base your understanding of the Christ on that nonsense you believe fairy tales
It’s troublesome that people with apparent expert knowledge about the gospels and Church teaching “spout” and “spew” negatively biased comments about them and a hundred heads nod in agreement unawares they’re being misinformed and misguided.
quote:
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
St. Luke’s Gospel, Chapter 17, verse 2.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:54 pm to geauxbrown
Haven't read this whole thread yet but wondering if the below has been confirmed....
1) what were the immigration laws that were broken by Jesus and his family, and Egypts asylum laws at the time?
2) Did Jesus and his family depend on the govt for survival during his period in Egypt?
1) what were the immigration laws that were broken by Jesus and his family, and Egypts asylum laws at the time?
2) Did Jesus and his family depend on the govt for survival during his period in Egypt?
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:08 pm to TerryDawg03
"And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered." (Luke 2:1-6)
Posted on 1/1/23 at 12:13 am to AggieHank86
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There are TONS of instances TODAY of citizens who flee their native land to escape persecution by a dictator ... but then return home when the dictator dies or is deposed.
Our southern border is being overrun Hank.
Despite your silly deflection, Happy New Year.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:13 am to jimmy the leg
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Our southern border is being overrun Hank. Despite your silly deflection
I read this whole thread. Hank didn’t make any arguments for or against illegal immigration. His point was to correct the OP who never read the second chapter of Matthew. I didn’t see any deflections.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 2:05 am to geauxbrown
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Jesus was NOT a Refugee
I agree, but it doesn't really matter.
Whatever people want to claim He was, it isn't comparable to the situation at our southern border.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 3:06 am to imjustafatkid
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Whatever people want to claim He was, it isn't comparable to the situation at our southern border
The TV commercial that probably cost $300k was making that exact comparison. That's the problem.
Meanwhile, we release everyone into the US to have anchor babies, except for (edited: Afghan) SF terps that put their nuts, and their family on the line, and the terps are those that get put into detention.
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This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 3:23 am
Posted on 1/1/23 at 5:33 am to LemmyLives
Make a Mohamad commercial for a football game and check the reaction
Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:28 am to KRS
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Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:39 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:Not just the OP. Look at the downvote ratio.
Hank didn’t make any arguments for or against illegal immigration. His point was to correct the OP who never read the second chapter of Matthew. I didn’t see any deflections.
My guess is that 90% of those downvotes consider themselves to be Christian, but never took a second to consider the words of Matthew.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:44 am to AggieHank86
Was not all of that area not under Roman rule at the time? So while he may have left one area did he not come back? Another off the wall consideration, being the son of God and all, why would he personally have a problem with status of residency?
Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:46 am to Between TheHedges
Being the son of God I would think his “fleeing” is more like roaming around his father’s kingdom!
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:09 am to Nosevens
quote:Herod was a Roman vassal. He was allowed to rule autonomously though, as long as he abided Roman interests.
Was not all of that area not under Roman rule at the time?
Meaning Herold had free rein within Judea to reward, punish, or kill any non-Roman Judean he desired. He desired to kill the newly born "King of the Jews."
But Herold had no reach into Egypt, and the Romans had no interest in Jesus.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:13 am to Nosevens
quote:Right.
I would think his “fleeing” is more like roaming around his father’s kingdom
Perhaps the Angel of the Lord misspoke when he ordered Joseph "to take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt"?
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:14 am to bayoudude
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Yeah that commercial pissed me right the frick off. propaganda to make us feel sorry for those law breaking border crossers. I don’t care what you are fleeing you do not have a right to be here that is reserved for citizens sorry don’t care
Perhaps the issue isn’t with the people coming here. How can you blame people for doing what is best for them, their family, and their descendants? The problem is our system of unsustainable giveaways, if we fixed that these issues would resolve themselves.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:48 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Right.
Perhaps the Angel of the Lord misspoke when he ordered Joseph "to take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt"?
You can definitely argue that they were refugees.
But they didn't cross an international border.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:36 am to Squirrelmeister
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Our southern border is being overrun Hank. Despite your silly deflection
quote:
I read this whole thread. Hank didn’t make any arguments for or against illegal immigration.
He doesn’t acknowledge that the commercials are propaganda using Jesus Christ as the tool to foment acceptance. It is tacit approval.
Clearly you are unfamiliar with the tactics that Hank deploys.
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How many of the anti-immigration folks are willing to simply say “yes, he was a political refugee, but that makes absolutely no difference in the current context.“ 10%?
You bought Hank’s deflection.
Congrats, I guess.
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 9:40 am
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