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re: lets discuss the shot
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:20 am to CrimsonBoz
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:20 am to CrimsonBoz
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An old Mauser wouldn’t be but you could disguise it, or he simply walked in from the back, got up there and made the shot and walked away without having to walk through any people so to speak.
Some of you are so out of touch it’s frankly laughable. A Mauser? Another poster said an old 30-06. Wtf are you talking about .
It was most likely your avg run of the mil ar-15 with a 3-9x scope or a more military fixed 4x type of scope.
Your avg ar-15 can be broken down into 3-4 parts very easily and fit in a back back in under 60 seconds.
That’s not even saying it could have been something like a short barreled ar-15 or pistol length ar-15 which frankly could fit in a large back pack at the full length.
ETA: Butler was damn near a Presidential level security situation. This was just a normal day on campus. All kinds of vendors working on campus: hvac, building contractors, electrician, janitors, etc.
ETA: Watch any sort of ex special forces podcast and most of those guys carry SBR or pistol length Ar-15s with them extremely often in a backpack or briefcase type of bag. These guns can be bought off the shelf ready to go like that fully capable of making this shot with 30 mins of range time zeroing the scope. This is being vastly over thought.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 8:25 am
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:21 am to ChatGPT of LA
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Yes. Are they a professional? No.
what part of your presentation substantiates that conclusion??
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:23 am to ChineseBandit58
That was the expert snipers words....not mine
It was forwarded me by a navy seal i grew up with.
One or both of them typed that.
It was forwarded me by a navy seal i grew up with.
One or both of them typed that.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:24 am to OccamsStubble
If it was an amateur then this will get exposed as people cannot help themselves in telling someone of their accomplishment as they will want the acknowledgment of a person(s). I’m leaning to a more rampant leftist that thinks he has skills, maybe with the help of close knit group to an organization not much different than ANTiFA. This was obviously planned out knowingly that that building was best. Kirk being set up under a tent and the shooter couple hundred yards away with the foreknowledge of placement of Kirk is not just a rambling act that got lucky. Toting in a breakdown rifle and back out again seconds after shooting with out accidentally bumping into others that were moving around in normal fashion or someone scrambling is more than just getting lucky. I have no knowledge of camera placement around that university but you can bet they have plenty and not showing up on them could prove more important in learning how this went down than a average person would be if he showed up running away. The more coincidences of shooter getting lucky in the assassination is more likely not coincidences but a strong strategy
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:59 am to baldona
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Some of you are so out of touch it’s frankly laughable. A Mauser? Another poster said an old 30-06. Wtf are you talking about .
This came directly from the article the guy posted. My first instinct from the sounds from decades of experience in the military and LE was an M4 Style 5.56. I said exactly what you did yesterday on putting it in a backpack etc.
However, the ATF email said 30-06 Mauser which they do they make. So take it for what it is in the context of that conversation.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:40 am to Da Sheik
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He then said someone who can make that successful shot from an elevated building a few hundred yards away, goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace is a professional. Very well planned and executed.
I'm back and forth on it being a professional job, so I'm Bongino Ruling it for the time being.
But I will say, [if] the shooter [allegedly] took his shot from about 200 yards with a .30 caliber bolt action rifle, my kids were all shooting deer behind the shoulder at that range before they were teens.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:42 am to Indefatigable
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Walking in and out of an open building?
He didn’t have to walk in any building to get on that roof.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:44 am to Da Sheik
It was an easy shot.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:44 am to TigerAxeOK
If it was a professional why would they plan to do this on a public university campus with students everywhere rather than do this more discreetly where no people are around.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:49 am to Da Sheik
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goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace is a professional. Very well planned and executed.
A campus is filled with backpacks, gym bags, people hauling their laundry around etc…
It’s not particularly wild to get in and out without much attention. Kind of dumb luck on who you run into along the way mostly.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:55 am to Da Sheik
It would not have been a difficult shot for a professional marksmen. The tent is irrelevant from the vantage point. Had a clear line of sight to the head. I’d bet the shooter was aiming for the head and nerves kicked in (indicating an amateur) and they didn’t account for the bullet drop or the angle.
A professional could have put it in the eye socket from 200 yards.
A professional could have put it in the eye socket from 200 yards.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 10:56 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:58 am to ibleedprplngld
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It would not have been a difficult shot for a professional marksmen. The tent is irrelevant from the vantage point. Had a clear line of sight to the head. I’d bet the shooter was aiming for the head and nerves kicked in (indicating an amateur) and they didn’t account for the bullet drop or the angle. A professional could have put it in the eye socket from 200 yards.
Shooting is a relatively easy skill to learn. At least for a 200 yd shot with a high powered rifle. This most likely some trans/blm looney toon.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:59 am to Da Sheik
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Just watched an "expert" discussing the shot.
He said Charlie was under a tent, so he had to aim at his chest. He said if he wasn't under a tent, then it would of been a head shot.
He said you go back 450' from Charlie, that would of been a hard shot.
He then said someone who can make that successful shot from an elevated building a few hundred yards away, goes in undetected, and leaves undetected without a trace is a professional. Very well planned and executed.
that sounds like bullshite. with a scoped rifle anyone can make that shot with a little practice. 450' is a little more than a football field endzone to endzone. what makes getting on top of a building so hard? nobody was posted up watching it or they would have seen him. it seems like he didnt have to do anything special like cut a lock or anything to get up there. the hardest part about what he/she did was decide they were going to do it. the rest seemed pretty easy for someone intent on performing the assassination assuming they were practicing with the weapon.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:00 am to Decatur
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If it was a professional why would they plan to do this on a public university campus with students everywhere rather than do this more discreetly where no people are around.
whoever did it was sending a message.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:05 am to BayouBengal51
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MO it was an intended chest shot, but due to adrenaline and not being a professional, they probably jerked the trigger and their shot drifted up. Tragically for Charlie, it became a neck shot.
Looks like it ricocheted off the armored vest he was wearing and hit his carotid artery. Once that's severed, the blood loss is almost certainly lethal.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:30 am to Decatur
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If it was a professional why would they plan to do this on a public university campus with students everywhere rather than do this more discreetly where no people are around.
If I were the one doing the hit, I'd have done it publicly and used the ensuing chaos as a segue to abscond unnoticed. People panic, and it's very predictable. Just join the crowd and act panicked and you completely disappear.
I'm not arguing against you question. It's valid. Just offering a possibility.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:44 am to TDsngumbo
quote:dumbass kids cant come anywhere close to doing that.
dumbass kid
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:08 pm to faraway
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quote:dumbass kid dumbass kids cant come anywhere close to doing that.
Dumbass kid came within ten diameters of a human hair from killing the president, with a red dot optic no less
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:10 pm to Da Sheik
Disagree. A deer hunter can make 120 yards easily at a stationary target. Any smart kid can plan a get away route. The shooter got lucky in his shot.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:21 pm to Da Sheik
I'm an actual expert on this subject and whoever said that they'd have taken a head shot is a fricking moron. No sniper takes that unless he has to. It's a low percentage shot. This is not a sniper. This is a transtifa with minimal rifle skills that got lucky. He missed by 6 inches at least. Damn near every deer huntin baw in Louisiana hits that shot 9 times out of 10.
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