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re: LOL, Candace goes there…moon landing.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:17 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:17 am to ChineseBandit58
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I wrote the procedures for the Command Module to perform the orbital maneuvers necessary to perform the docking maneuvers to link the two spacecraft should the Lunar Module suffer a failure after getting back into lunar orbit after the surface mission was completed.
Dad did trajectory analysis for the Saturn 1B and Saturn 5 launch vehicles. I got to see those facilities at Michoud a couple of times. Very cool. The assembly area was so large they had problems with rain clouds forming indoors. The S-1Cs (Saturn 5 1st stage) were loaded on a barge at Michoud and transported to the Mississippi Test Facility. We only lived about 5 miles from the test site. When they'd test fire the S-1C's, it was impressive. Most of Slidell would vibrate under the din.
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:43 am to GumboPot
Candice could absolutely get dat BWC
Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:45 am to LookSquirrel
Because these questions have been asked and answered many times over.
It’s on par with the flat Earth nonsense.
It’s on par with the flat Earth nonsense.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:08 am to GumboPot
Do your own research … we did NOT go to the moon in 1969. We have been lied to from at least the RFK assassination. Merry Christmas.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:10 am to Gifman
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We didn’t land on the moon. That’s like believing in Santa
Or dinosaurs.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:17 am to GumboPot
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FYI, the space station is 250 miles from earth. The moon is 238,900 miles from earth.
This is fallacious thinking, tantamount to saying that Fort Knox is much harder to break into if you are starting in California than if you are starting in Kentucky.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:32 am to geauxbrown
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If the US never landed on the moon, it would be the largest and longest running government ruse ever carried out.
Thousands of workers and contractors, billions of dollars spent all for a meaningless win over Russia
You believe our government wouldn't lie to us? They have no problem killing thousands of citizens. Think war of the world's but on tv. That's the moon landing. I don't believe we ever went.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:48 am to saintsfan1977
quote:Irrelevant.
You believe our government wouldn't lie to us?
If we had not landed on the moon, the Soviet's would have had a field day laughing off the claim. That is the point.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:49 am to saintsfan1977
quote:Then you're an effing moron.
I don't believe we ever went.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:52 am to Plx1776
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No way we went to the moon. As soon as one of those assholes who was part of nasa implied we "lost the technology" to go to the moon, it was basically confirmed we never went
No one ever said we lost the technology. We lost a purpose for going back. People come up with all of these ridiculous attempts to "debunk" the moon landing, but never talk about the next 5 times we went there, and ask why we haven't been back. How many times should we have gone? How much money spent on going to the moon was enough? Should we have just made it an annual trip til the end of civilization?
The only reason people are talking about going back now, is because they would plan on building some type of space station there, which was definitely not in anyone's plans back in the 70's.
And why is it that we have so many self professed experts telling us the moon landing was fake, but our space rivals, even when tensions were extremely high at the height of the cold war, never accused us of faking anything? Why have they never jumped on the conspiracy theory bandwagon, in an effort to dethrone the United States as the first country to land on the moon?
People are so obsessed with controversy that they will believe anything to have something to write books and make documentaries about. I watched this Sibrel guy on Rogan, and all of his claims were easily debunked by people who actually know what they're talking about. This guy just sees something that he doesn't know how to explain, and claims it's evidence of a hoax, but never does the work of researching any possible explanations for what he sees. Because he doesn't want an explanation. He has staked his reputation on one narrative, and has shown zero interest in displaying any intellectual honesty, or journalistic integrity.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:55 am to NC_Tigah
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If we had not landed on the moon, the Soviet's would have had a field day laughing off the claim
You'll believe anything. Funny Russia never set foot on the moon. They just took our word for it like you are doing.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:03 am to saintsfan1977
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You'll believe anything. Funny Russia never set foot on the moon. They just took our word for it like you are doing.
Yeah because the people who got their own cosmonauts killed by rushing and ignoring safety, in their haste to beat us at everything, just "took our word for it" when beat them in the ultimate goal of the entire space race at the time.
If anyone was qualified to recognize a fraud, it would have been the Russians, and you can rest fully assured that they would have been the first one's to call us out if they thought they had any chance of proving it. But they knew better, because they had real scientists, just like we had, and the things that people try to call into question in the conspiracy circles were not difficult for them to understand and explain.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:07 am to saintsfan1977
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You believe our government wouldn't lie to us?
We went to the moon, and (this might surprise you) it wasnt made of cheese.
The earth also isnt flat. Just so you know..
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:08 am to GumboPot
quote:Apollo ran at just under 1% of GDP. If we were spending about $225B/yr on space exploration now, those folks would have been retrieved immediately.
Just and FYI, the space station is 250 miles from earth. The moon is 238,900 miles from earth.
NASA's budget is currently ~ 1/10th of that, and a significant portion of its budget is tied up with "Climate Change" crap.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:26 am to saintsfan1977
quote:Cosmonauts tried and died doing it, my friend. The USSR never "took our word" for a thing. Certainly not for something so profound to their national psyche as being beaten in the space race.
Funny Russia never set foot on the moon.
The USSR Confirmed the Moon Landings 6 ways to Sunday.
They had sophisticated tracking stations capable of monitoring the Apollo spacecraft during their journey to the Moon and back. They tracked radio transmissions from the spacecraft confirming their location and trajectory toward the Moon, orbiting it, and returning to the Earth, ensuring the mission wasn’t faked.
They used ground-based radar systems to monitor the Apollo missions. These systems could detect the spacecraft’s movements, including its orbit around the Moon.
Powerful telescopes in the USSR were also used to observe the trajectory and verify that the missions reached lunar orbit.
The USSR, as a leader in space technology, understood the complexities of space travel and lunar exploration. They could independently verify that the Apollo missions' technological achievements and mission parameters were consistent with genuine lunar landings.
Apollo missions brought back rock samples from the Moon. The USSR, having conducted their own robotic lunar missions (Luna program), had previously collected and analyzed lunar samples. They could compare the Apollo samples with their own, confirming the samples' lunar origin.
If the USSR had a scintilla of evidence the U.S. moon landings were fake, it would have been a massive propaganda victory for them. They didn't.
After the Cold War, scientists and engineers from the USSR/Russia and the U.S. engaged in space collaboration, further validating the authenticity of the Apollo program through shared knowledge and historical documentation.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:40 am to saintsfan1977
quote:I believe saintsfan1977 has left the building.
You'll believe anything.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:47 am to NC_Tigah
I don't believe he was ever in the building. I think his posts were actually petrified wood.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:59 am to Metaloctopus
I honestly don't know what to believe about the moon landing but it's mainly because I'm too dumb and lazy to figure it out.
I can understand the getting to the moon. I see things launched, looks legit and super powerful. I'm hung up on the getting back part. Perfect conditions and a crazy amount of energy is required to leave Earth. A small boost just pushed them off the moon and back 238K miles?
Seems odd but again, me dumb.
I can understand the getting to the moon. I see things launched, looks legit and super powerful. I'm hung up on the getting back part. Perfect conditions and a crazy amount of energy is required to leave Earth. A small boost just pushed them off the moon and back 238K miles?
Seems odd but again, me dumb.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:11 am to UK34
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I honestly don't know what to believe about the moon landing but it's mainly because I'm too dumb and lazy to figure it out.
I can understand the getting to the moon. I see things launched, looks legit and super powerful. I'm hung up on the getting back part. Perfect conditions and a crazy amount of energy is required to leave Earth. A small boost just pushed them off the moon and back 238K miles?
Seems odd but again, me dumb.
Remember that no fuel is required except when lifting off (from both Earth and the Moon) and reentering. They don't have to burn fuel between Earth and the Moon at any other point except to make a course correction, if one is needed. It takes a lot of fuel to leave Earth's atmosphere and the significant gravitational forces and air resistance. Not nearly so much is needed to leave the surface of the moon. The speed at which you exit is the speed you'll maintain throughout the flight, as there is no resistance in space.
Lots of moon landing deniers have claimed we could never have had enough fuel, because they mistakenly believe that there would have been rocket boosters burning at all times.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 8:17 am
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:18 am to NC_Tigah
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Dad did trajectory analysis for the Saturn 1B and Saturn 5 launch vehicles.
Never did anything relative to launch - and that seemed like an undoable task to me. I could not envision the work required to harness all that energy safely with a couple of men sitting on top of it. beyond my ken.
My real specialty was rendezvous. Was involved with that from the first day I ever heard the word - November, 1961 = 'evaluate the design of CM attitude hand controllers for rendezvous & docking phase of Gemini/Agena docking maneuver" Had just begun to work for McDonnell Aircraft in St. Louis and never heard the word before --- embarassing.
But I did get to wear one of Gus Grissom's training space suits to evaluate the usability of designs if the suit was inflated. Got to meet every one of the original astronauts during that stint. Even had National Geographic come down to look at the simulation I put together to evaluate the visual approach.
What a blast for a country boy from Vernon Parish.
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