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re: Louisiana Senator and anti-vaxer
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:32 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:32 pm to BamaAtl
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Then you understand why individuals should be forced to take the vaccines absent any contraindications. It's a very Republican thing to say you'd rather not give something not harmful to an individual and allow them to possibly kill dozens to hundreds to people just so their feelings aren't hurt.
I’m not a republican
Ignoring legal precedents and individual rights and saying it’s about feelings is fricking stupid and why no one gives you the time of day on this board
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:36 pm to Upperdecker
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I’m not a republican
Funny how 'liberatarians' vote for Republicans, then claim that's not who they are.
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Ignoring legal precedents and individual rights and saying it’s about feelings
The legal precedent is on the side of vaccinations. Individual rights are often limited when there's little to no risk to the individual and great risk to the general public.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:39 pm to BlackAdam
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He cited long debunked studies linking vaccines to autism on the Senate floor. He is a nimrod
Debunked by who? People like the head of the CDC that take payback jobs with the companies that they were supposed to regulate?
Former CDC head lands vaccine job at Merck
I'm not saying that all vaccines are bad but theres a reason that they use a private vaccine court to keep the payouts to victims families out of the main stream media. Everything isn't black and white, there's room for discussion instead of labeling them antivaxers.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:58 pm to jptiger2009
An ole boy country democrat made this speech.
LA politics never cease to amaze me
LA politics never cease to amaze me
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:25 pm to Orwell84
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theres a reason that they use a private vaccine court
It isn't the reason you're thinking.
And VAERS data is readily available.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:50 pm to BamaAtl
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The legal precedent is on the side of vaccinations. Individual rights are often limited when there's little to no risk to the individual and great risk to the general public.
A single individual not getting a vaccination carries little risk to the public. But any individual can suffer an immune response to a vaccine that can cause illness or death
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:59 pm to Orwell84
So, you must be against almost all of Trump’s appointees?
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:00 pm to Upperdecker
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A single individual not getting a vaccination carries little risk to the public. But any individual can suffer an immune response to a vaccine that can cause illness or death
This world class dumb.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:05 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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This world class dumb.
Good analysis
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:09 pm to Upperdecker
I know.
Now work on making smarter, educated arguments.
Now work on making smarter, educated arguments.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:15 pm to FightnBobLafollette
Yes because I couldn't possibly support someone because they don't agree with every opinion I hold on every topic, lol.
There are countless cases of healthy children changing overnight after being vaccinated, I don't think they are all bad but people shouldn't be labeled antivaxers because they want answers.
There are countless cases of healthy children changing overnight after being vaccinated, I don't think they are all bad but people shouldn't be labeled antivaxers because they want answers.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:19 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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I know. Now work on making smarter, educated arguments.
Disprove my argument first. Disprove that people can be severely ill or die from a vaccine
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:56 pm to Upperdecker
Jeez, there are more idiot anti vaxxer than I thought. I thought the resurgence of measles in this country secondary to total stupidity might have caused them to run and hide.
However they are here embarrassing themselves as always. Whenever someone specifies they are for safe vaccines, you know they are an anti vaxxer because everyone else realizes they are already safe.
Just legally mandate everyone gets vaccinate without exception outside of actually health reasons. Then I won't have to listen to these absolute morons who misquote scientific papers because, well, they are morons. And this is what morons do.
Congratulations for being the cause of the resurgence of measles in the u United States, a virus we almost had eradicated here simply because you guys are incomprehensibly stupid.
However they are here embarrassing themselves as always. Whenever someone specifies they are for safe vaccines, you know they are an anti vaxxer because everyone else realizes they are already safe.
Just legally mandate everyone gets vaccinate without exception outside of actually health reasons. Then I won't have to listen to these absolute morons who misquote scientific papers because, well, they are morons. And this is what morons do.
Congratulations for being the cause of the resurgence of measles in the u United States, a virus we almost had eradicated here simply because you guys are incomprehensibly stupid.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:58 pm to thetempleowl
Sorry for the typos. Using a phone.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:03 pm to notsince98
Ahem...
is dropping
up in this piece.
The problem is that notsince's commentary goes against the constructs of normalcy for every koolaid drinker in this thread.
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Most just want proper safety testing and cleaner vaccines w/out the toxic adjuvants and preservatives.
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Well, there has been smoke to that issue before. CDC got caught burying studies that showed some minor correlation. Shortly after, mercury was removed from MMR. Coincidence? Now also take a look at recent studies showing links between aluminum toxicity (aluminum is a highly potent neurotoxin) and many issues like alzheimers, autism, etc. Many vaccines have aluminum in their adjuvants to invoke immune system responses. This is where the attention needs to be placed by all sides. There is a lot of evidence pointing to this being a problem. Instead of looking at modern data, people like to fall back on MSM stories (yeah, the MSM was honest back then, right?) trying to paint anyone questioning the issue as crazy conspiracy theorists. This doesn't even get into vaccination schedules where children are given multiple vaccines at once when there has been ZERO studies on the safety of doing such a thing. This whole topic needs to be taken seriously by everyone. If we all work together, we can probably find a way to make safe and clean vaccines with much less risk than the current batches. And if you think any of this is hyperbole, I'd highly suggest reading up about "science day" at Merck's ongoing trial. That should be enough to get anyone to take the topic seriously.
is dropping
up in this piece.
The problem is that notsince's commentary goes against the constructs of normalcy for every koolaid drinker in this thread.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:13 pm to thetempleowl
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thetempleowl
If vaccines are so safe, why do people die from them every year? Hundreds or thousands, to be exact
And why do they need to publish this, if the vaccines are safe and have no harmful effects?
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Serious complications reported by Merck in the ProQuad(MMR-V) product insert during vaccine post-marketing surveillance include6: measles; atypical measles; vaccine strain varicella; varicella-like rash; herpes zoster; herpes simplex; pneumonia and respiratory infection; pneumonitis; bronchitis; epididymitis; cellulitis; skin infection; subacute sclerosing panencephalitis; aseptic meningitis; thrombocytopenia; aplastic anemia (anemia due to the bone marrow’s inability to produce platelets, red and white blood cells); lymphadenitis (inflammation of the lymph nodes); anaphylaxis including related symptoms of peripheral, angioneurotic and facial emema; agitation; ocular palsies; necrotizing retinitis (inflammation of the eye); nerve deafness; optic and retrobulbar neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve); Bell’s palsy (sudden but temporary weakness of one half of the face); cerebrovascular accident (stroke); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis; measles inclusion body encephalitis; transverse myelitis; encephalopathy; Guillain-Barré syndrome; syncope (fainting); tremor; dizziness; paraesthesia; febrile seizure; afebrile seizures or convulsions; polyneuropathy (dysfunction of numerous peripheral nerves of the body); Stevens-Johnson syndrome; Henoch-Schönlein purpura; acute hemorrhagic edema of infancy; erythema multiforme; panniculitis; arthritis; death
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:48 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Okay. This should be good!
It isn't the reason you're thinking.
What is "the reason" for the OSM/USCFC, aka Vaccine Court?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:50 pm to Upperdecker
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If vaccines are so safe, why do people die from them every year? Hundreds or thousands, to be exact
And why do they need to publish this, if the vaccines are safe and have no harmful effects?
People die doing safe things all the time. Safe does not mean free from all risk.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:57 pm to jptiger2009
I'm pretty sure he posts here.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:14 pm to BlackAdam
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People die doing safe things all the time. Safe does not mean free from all risk.
Usually that means the danger is preventable and predictable. Like going to the Grand Canyon. Yea you could fall off the side, but only if you push your limits and lose your balance
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