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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:29 pm to BCreed1
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Lawful only within the boundaries Congress set
Thank you for proving my point. Massie is wrong on #2
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt. What am I missing?
The precedent---originating with the Bas case cited by you---shows that Massie is CORRECT on #2. Before striking Iran in the manner suggested by Trump's post, the President MUST have Congressional authorization...for the strike to be legal.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:34 pm to roadGator
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If you say so, jugbow.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:50 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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chose a name that seemed to fit you better. SDT = "sexually transmitted disease."
You meant STD? What a moron
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so NOW the barrels contained the precursors to fent
Its alway been that. You are the moron who thinks its bricks of powder in barrels
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How did they get to Venezuela?
Planes trains and automobiles
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Just answer this: how do you know fentanyl precursors were in the barrels?
Because Joe Bidens admin said so
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
No, you're just too retarded to be bothered with.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:53 pm to SDVTiger
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You meant STD? What a moron
OK, that was a pretty funny self-own. I don't usually make that mistake.
What evidence do you have as to what is contained in the barrels???
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:54 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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No, you're just too retarded to be bothered with.
Of course, youre a pussy and have decided not to answer questions, because you dont have the answers.
Which is how you got attracted to this populist left wing cult. No need to think, the X influencers do that for you.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The op is only 12 opposed. You’re the cult.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:58 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Yeah you arent the brightest
I already told you
What evidence do you have that its oil or fish?
I already told you
What evidence do you have that its oil or fish?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:00 pm to SDVTiger
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so NOW the barrels contained the precursors to fent
Its alway been that.
Thats the great thing about being in a cult, you never have to worry about truth.
You just make up shite on the spot, with no evidence whatsoever.
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Available reporting and official U.S. documents through 2025 consistently state that Venezuela plays at most a minor role in the fentanyl trade; U.S. and independent analyses report “no proof” that fentanyl is produced or trafficked from Venezuela and identify Mexico (with precursor chemicals from China) as the principal source of fentanyl affecting the United States [1] [2] [3]. None of the provided sources give a credible, cited estimate of an annual quantity of fentanyl originating from Venezuela for 2025 — they characterize Venezuelan contribution as “little to none,” “virtually no role,” or “no evidence”
LINK
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Another low iq clapping seal
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:03 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I want to give you the benefit of the doubt. What am I missing?
You are missing the totality of History. Trump does not have the authority to launch a war. But per all the history and precedent he does have the power for a strike.
President's Powers (Article II, Section 2): The President is Commander in Chief of the armed forces, with responsibility for conducting foreign affairs and defending the nation. This provides inherent authority for certain unilateral actions.
Over 125 instances of unilateral deployments have been documented.
Second there is the 1973 act. President must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing forces into hostilities or situations where hostilities are imminent.
Third is AUMFs. We are currently under one. 2001 AUMF (Global War on Terror) — Still in effect
Formally titled the Authorization for Use of Military Force of 2001, this joint resolution was passed shortly after the September 11 attacks and authorizes the president to use “all necessary and appropriate force” against those responsible for the attacks and associated forces.
Now congress can go in a remove that AUMF. After all, they did repeal the 2002 one they issued.
Iran is a nation that supports terrorists. Care to guess how many in 2025 were arrested in the USA alone?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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this populist left wing cult.
Go topple a gov building if you're such a freaking patriot. Fig.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:07 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Go topple a gov building if you're such a freaking patriot.
Id rather vote the fricker out who just put the biggest tax on Americans in 30years and wants to seize the means of production.'
Comrade
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:07 pm to SDVTiger
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I already told you
What evidence do you have that its oil or fish?
No you didn't. I have no idea what's in the barrels. I accept that they are running drugs, so stop with the oil or fish crap and actually discuss the issue.
Why do you think the barrels have anything to do with fentanyl? Does it make any sense to ship the precursors all the way from China to Venezuela if the ultimate destination is the US? Why not ship it to Mexico which is what all sources (including the Feds) that I can find say is what happens:
CHATGPT:
Current evidence does not show that significant amounts of fentanyl are being produced in or trafficked from Venezuela into the United States. Here’s what reliable data and expert assessments indicate:
?? No Verified Evidence of Venezuelan Fentanyl Supply
U.S. government reports — including the International Narcotics Control Strategy Report (INCSR) — identify Mexico (and Mexican cartels) as the primary source of illicit fentanyl entering the United States. Venezuela is not mentioned as a source country or major transit route for fentanyl in these official assessments. ?
IDPC +1
Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) assessments and the National Drug Threat Assessment have consistently mapped the fentanyl supply chain as:
Chemical precursors sourced primarily from China and other Asian countries;
Manufacturing of fentanyl and analogues in Mexico;
**Smuggling into the U.S. mostly over the southern land border, especially through official ports of entry. ?
IDPC +1
Independent drug-trafficking analyses (e.g., by UNODC) find no significant fentanyl production in South America and note that most illegal fentanyl entering the U.S. is linked to Mexican pathways, not Venezuelan or Caribbean ones. ?
IDPC
?? No Proven Shipments from Venezuela
Reports fact-checking recent U.S. claims about drug smuggling boats off Venezuela’s coast note that authorities have not publicly provided evidence that those vessels were carrying fentanyl or bound for the U.S. ?
WLRN
The Caribbean route, while historically used for cocaine transit, isn’t a major fentanyl smuggling corridor (fentanyl traffickers favor land routes into the U.S.). ?
WLRN
?? What Is Venezuela’s Role (if any)?
Some analysts acknowledge Venezuela plays a role as a transit country for cocaine from Colombia, due in part to geography and weak law enforcement — but even here the shares are relatively small compared with other trafficking routes. ?
Military.com
There is no verified evidence that Venezuela is a significant producer or exporter of fentanyl. ?
IDPC
?? Why the Confusion?
Political rhetoric (e.g., claims by U.S. officials linking Venezuelan operations to fentanyl flows) has not been backed by publicly disclosed evidence tying Venezuelan production or shipments directly to fentanyl entering the U.S. ?
WLRN
In summary: Based on available official data and expert analyses, there is no credible evidence that fentanyl destined for the United States is being produced in or trafficked from Venezuela. The vast majority of illegal fentanyl linked to U.S. overdoses originates from production in Mexico using precursors from Asia, and is smuggled across the U.S.–Mexico border. ?
IDPC
If you’d like, I can provide links to the specific government reports that discuss fentanyl sources and trafficking routes.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Except he didn't.
Psycho.
Go have a shot with your gals Nancy and Kamala.
Psycho.
Go have a shot with your gals Nancy and Kamala.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:12 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Except he didn't.
Largest Tax increase since 1982
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The Trump administration’s so-called reciprocal tariffs on countries around the world announced April 2 will raise government revenue in 2025 by $290 billion, or o.95% of GDP, constituting the biggest tax hike since 1982. This is according to calculations by the Tax Foundation. While the U.S. government has claimed that tariffs are a tax on foreign entities, a tariff is paid by the importer
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:13 pm to David_DJS
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It's pretty weird that in a post you call others tards you prove that argue against a point that nobody made. Nobody suggested we're in a war. The discussion is about Trump's reversal on our never-ending support of Ukraine.
The OP was a screenshot of Massie's criticisms of miliatary intervention in Iran aka "war" for some folks on this board, no matter what level of miliatry intervention is involved... Those who apparently believe any level of military intervention is equivalent to long, protracted military conflicts in far off countries with American troops on the ground engaged in combat ala the Cheney/W. Bush administration
"JOOtard" - would be the people who think Israel needs to be wiped off the earth in its most extreme context; or simply those who believe Israel and Jews are 100% evil, responsible for all ills in the world today, they deserve all the ire and terrorism aimed at the state and its citizens by muslims, and they control U.S. foreign policy... and not the other way around. At the very least I would argue its a reciprocal relationship, given that Israel is the number one customer of our defense industry and military industrial complex with regard to purchasing U.S. military weaponry, and has been for decades.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
"claimed"
GFY
GFY
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:14 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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No you didn't
Yes I did
I posted bidens memorandum
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I accept that they are running drugs
Then wtf are you crying about and why are you defending drug dealers
Clapping lefty seal is what you are
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