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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:30 am to
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:30 am to
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You mean Mexico isn't going to just let us run military operations around their entire country and bomb their citizens without input? Who could have seen this?


yeah here's the thing milt, i don't think we're going to be asking for their permission.

you can go back to pretending to be a lawyer now.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:34 am to
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It's an intractable situation. There is no clear, easy solution.


Sure there is. Build a physical barrier between the US and Mexico, defend that border, and inspect anything and everything coming across that border until such time as Mexico actually cleans up the cartels that run their country. Close that border completely for some amount of time for egregious acts, as incentive for Mexico to actually do something about the situation. I guarantee that if you close the border long enough to make it affect the Mexican economy, they will do something about the cartels eventually.

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Mexico just tried the military approach and lost.


Mexico couldn't try the military approach against my hunting club with success. Mexico's military does well against impoverished, unarmed citizens, and that's about it. They will have to spend the billions they give to cartels on weapons and armament if they want to have success against the cartels.

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If we try the military approach, it will be just as difficult and costly. If we have to invade Mexico illegally, the costs (both in terms of innocent human life AND dollars) will be incredible.


Bombs and agent orange aren't nearly as expensive as funding 40 million illegals, and dealing with thousands of dead Americans.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:49 am to
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I dont know how many times you people need to be told, but our own DRUG WAY created and props up the cartels.


It's not the war itself, it's the way we prosecute it. There's plenty of places in the world with severe drug laws. Why don't all of them have massive drug cartels on their doorstep?

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The drug war is more dangerous than the use of drugs.


Tell that to the children of drug addicts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:50 am to
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Tell that to the children of drug addicts.


While these drugs are illegal.

Thanks for proving the point that the drug war doesnt work to stop drugs and does nothing but prop up the cartels. You did a fine job.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:51 am to
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So don't tax them. Problem solved.


You're a fricking idiot. Tell me one thing the people want that the government doesn't tax?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
149292 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:55 am to
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RogerTheShrubber
Casey DeSantis 2028
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66732 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:56 am to
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Mexico President Claudia Sheinbaum

Wait….when did Mexico elect a Jewish president?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:57 am to
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I called you one of the dumbest posters on this board

Which is objectively false, but the Dunning-Kruger-based comedy of these statements always makes me laugh.

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Then, I pivoted to proving your last point as wrong.

No, scholar. You pivoted to arguing something that is clearly non-military was now military to try to save your argument.

Again, Dunning-Kruger on full display.

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Demonstrating that a leftwing

This idiocy will also never not make me chuckle

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64546 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:57 am to
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The drug war is more dangerous than the use of drugs.
This might be the dumbest thing I'll read all year.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10445 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:58 am to
the sfp force is strong today. watch out for the children safety
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:00 am to
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While these drugs are illegal.


You do know that there are plenty of people with enough money and juice where dealing with law enforcement is not much of a step, right? I know a fair number of lawyers and a few judges with addiction problems, and every one of their kids are complete basket cases. Kids of addict parents who turn out to be productive citizens are the exception.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:00 am to
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Sure there is. Build a physical barrier between the US and Mexico



Unless you're building an actual barrier that will prohibit trade with one of our largest trading partners, this plan is silly.

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and inspect anything and everything coming across that border until such time as Mexico actually cleans up the cartels that run their country.

Yeah. Stupid. As I suspected.

Do you realize the increase in cost/prices this would create? For America, not just Mexico.

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Bombs and agent orange aren't nearly as expensive as funding 40 million illegals

The WOT disagrees.

And that's ignoring your "40 million illegals" is a completely different discussion. But nice pivot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:01 am to
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This might be the dumbest thing I'll read all year.


MAGAts really hate facts.



Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96420 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:02 am to
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Do you realize the increase in cost/prices this would create? For America, not just Mexico.



You idiots cried about the cost of a wall and said to replace that with scanners at the border

Now doing scanners on trucks coming across would cost too much

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:03 am to
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You do know that there are plenty of people with enough money and juice where dealing with law enforcement is not much of a step, right?


You do know that illegal drugs are a 150 billion dollar industry in this country, right?

What does that tell you regarding the drug trade?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7000 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:06 am to
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Thanks for proving the point that the drug war doesnt work to stop drugs and does nothing but prop up the cartels.

Never been a fan of putting the full blame on the "drug war". That fight was started with good intentions, and didn't take into affect States legalizing drugs and the Feds not doing anything about it. Hard to fight something when the people put in charge of supporting it do things to counter it.

Obviously there are a lot of factors, but State legalizations/normalization efforts was a massive contributor deserving of blame.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:06 am to
God, you're dumb. If all border traffic with Mexico stops this minute, which country is going to fold up faster? Can you answer that honestly?

If you can, then you know a closed or perpetually gridlocked border is an existential crisis for Mexico. Not the US, Mexico. If we close the border, at some point they have to decide if they want to have a country, or let the cartels run rampant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:08 am to
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hat fight was started with good intentions, and didn't take into affect States legalizing drugs and the Feds not doing anything about it.


We spent trillions in failure before any drug was legalized.

You can move drugs into the legal economy (where they are safer to use) and benefit from it, or you can leave 150b on the table for drug dealers.

Because no one is stopping Americas appetite for drugs. Its impossible without making possession a harsh offense, and I imagine that wouldnt hold up in court.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37004 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:10 am to
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Mexico President Claudia Sheinbaum hasn't appeared willing to cooperate with Trump/US in dealing with the problem of the cartels. She continues to blab about Mexico's sovereignty, rather than offering any assistance in dealing with them. 

They own her. Anyone who rises to power in MX only does so with the blessing and support of the cartels.

The whole national government is compromised and run by terrorists, not at all unlike what we see in many middle eastern States.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471818 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:12 am to
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You idiots cried about the cost of a wall

I did not.

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and said to replace that with scanners at the border

I also did not.

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