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Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:14 pm to DelU249
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I think he did to harass someone...someone who kept it real. Officer Brown kepts it realzer
he's a cop...a punch to the face doesn't call for lethal force.
So you just admitted you think the witness lied.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:15 pm to NHTIGER
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What doesn't make sense is that Brown's companion said that the cop grabbed Brown by the neck while he was still seated in his police car and Brown was outside the car. Johnson said nothing about Brown leaning his head down toward the car door, so just how long were that cop's arms?
I found that odd too. Why would you pull some one into your car unless they had a gun pointed at your face and your were trying to take the gun.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:15 pm to kilo
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I would be interested in reading some of what these journalists said if you wouldnt mind linking to the articles.
Haven't read any actual articles, just from reading some of their Tweets. And none have come out and said that, but I'm kind of picking up on that vibe from their Tweets, so I could be way off base with that impression.
Antonio French is one. Wesley Lowery is another.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:16 pm to kilo
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The officer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager in Ferguson, Missouri was injured in the alleged altercation, according to Ferguson Chief of Police Tom Jackson.
The kid messed up his mug so he shot him dead for it. That's what you're saying?
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Jackson, who spoke on the phone with News 4's Laura Hettiger Wednesday morning, said the officer "was hit" and the "side of his face was swollen."
Was it still alive?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:17 pm to kilo
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Im assuming you think they should release the name of the officer involved?
Of course not. You don't have a right to know the name of the cop who killed your son! No way! This is 'merica. We'll kill you when we feel like it.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:18 pm to kilo
do I have a reputation of using the "oh he was such a good boy, he ain't never do nufin wrong" defense still, cops are held to the highest standards...it will depend on what injuries he sustained, but I'm imagining nothing that would make lethal force justifiable.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:18 pm to kilo
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Do folks really believe that he just hopped out of his patrol car and gunned down someone?
No, but I also don't think that 6-8 shots (as reported) were needed to take down an unarmed person.
Again, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
He was just a good boy didnt mean no harm to know one.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
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The kid messed up his mug so he shot him dead for it. That's what you're saying?
Please keep your strawmen out of this thread. Just try honest discourse for once. Its a liberating experience.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:20 pm to Lsut81
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Again, the truth is somewhere in the middle
giddy up.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:21 pm to ninthward
I always push and beat on cops, I mean dont we all? how dare this kid get killed for that jeez. I mean this could just be me, I always loiter at night in my neighborhood with my boys.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:22 pm to Lsut81
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No, but I also don't think that 6-8 shots (as reported) were needed to take down an unarmed person.
Again, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Yea, like I said, the question, in my mind at this point was; did the officer use appropriate force?
I am very interested in seeing more of the facts come to light. If there was no struggle for his (officer's) gun then this officer is in trouble, if there was though, well that muddies up the water a fair bit.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:24 pm to kilo
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Please keep your strawmen out of this thread. Just try honest discourse for once. Its a liberating experience.
So Brown didn't hit him now? Or the cop didn't shoot him? What did I get wrong?
When you've decided what the facts are get back to us.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:24 pm to DelU249
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.it will depend on what injuries he sustained, but I'm imagining nothing that would make lethal force justifiable.
Unless of course he was in fact reaching for the officer's firearm.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:26 pm to DelU249
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but I'm imagining nothing that would make lethal force justifiable.
The only thing I would think that would make lethal force even remotely justifiable is if there was a struggle for the officer's sidearm. Even then, its questionable.
My only issue is the narrative by the witness that Brown was shot with his hands up. like he was surrendering and that he wasnt involved in an altercation. Seems these two statements makes me question the credibility of the witness. I will reserve judgement though until more light is shed.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:26 pm to kilo
I don't give a shite what did or did not happen in this case. There is no excuse for Americans to riot, steal, and tear up stuff that does not belong to them. The court system will work its due process and an decision will be made by the powers that be at a later date.
The display of filth that has plagued my tv screen of seeing these Americans act in this manner sickens me.
The display of filth that has plagued my tv screen of seeing these Americans act in this manner sickens me.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:27 pm to kilo
They should have released the name of the cop immediately.
Sounds to me like a verbal altercation, turned into a physical altercation, cop got the worst of it and capped the guy. We know who started it though
Sounds to me like a verbal altercation, turned into a physical altercation, cop got the worst of it and capped the guy. We know who started it though
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:29 pm to SpidermanTUba
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So Brown didn't hit him now? Or the cop didn't shoot him? What did I get wrong?
When you've decided what the facts are get back to us.
Do you even know what a straw man argument is? Be honest.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:30 pm to kilo
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I am very interested in seeing more of the facts come to light. If there was no struggle for his (officer's) gun then this officer is in trouble
I think the witnesses original statement is very plausible, although the more he is interviewed, the more scripted and outlandish it gets.
He originally said
They were walking in the street and the officer told them to get out. They didn't immediately get out of the street, so the cop backed up to them and grabbed the kid out of the window and pulled him closer... Kind of "Get the frick over here you little shite"
Now if that is what happened, I can see the kid trying to get away and punching the officer in the face and the officer pulling his gun and firing through the door... Because the cops said that one shot was fired within the vehicle.
If that is the case, then there was absolutely no reason for the additional shots to be fired.
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