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re: Millennials voting for Sanders
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:12 pm to 3nOut
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:12 pm to 3nOut
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Socialism is agreeable to a certain extent, but he’s using it for class division.
Decentralized socialism - ie., municipal (or smaller) collectivization of risk, property, or production - is something I can stomach, but any attempts on a large scale is simply untenable, especially in the US. We are too heterogeneous, in all senses of the word, for any top-down socialized policy to work. It would just end up being power concentrated in the hands of bureaucrats, much more so than what presently exists.
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:14 pm to fallguy_1978
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lived in NYC in my early 20s. Upper west side. I made it about 15 months or so.
Smart man. I'm going on six years and I miss trees. And friendly people.
Soon I'll escape. Colorado beckons.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:14 pm to ShortyRob
HowMuch.net article on buying power of the dollar
Retail prices of common staples
Now throw in that you have to have internet and a cell phone to function in today’s world. Not to mention if you have a car you must legally have insurance now.
So yes, cost of living is more expensive today and you also are required to have extra things you didn’t need in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:16 pm to Oneforthemoney
I would piss in Bernie's prune juice
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:17 pm to MI LSU
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Smart man. I'm going on six years and I miss trees. And friendly people.
I'm an educated country boy. The fascination with the big city and bright lights wore off fairly quickly for me.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:18 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:The city makes me feel claustrophobic, and I’m not one to have issues with most things.
The fascination with the big city and bright lights wore off fairly quickly for me.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:22 pm to HempHead
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Decentralized socialism - ie., municipal (or smaller) collectivization of risk, property, or production - is something I can stomach, but any attempts on a large scale is simply untenable, especially in the US. We are too heterogeneous, in all senses of the word, for any top-down socialized policy to work. It would just end up being power concentrated in the hands of bureaucrats, much more so than what presently exists.
I agree with that, but I meant it more in a morality standpoint.
I find the tenets agreeable in that I have compassion for my fellow man and desire an equal outcome. I just know that on this side of heaven it’s corruptible and has proven to be every time it’s practiced. Somebody will get screwed over so that somebody else will get theirs and I just can’t abide by that. I understand that people get screwed in capitalism all the time. But they have a chance to rise above their station.
Socialism will screw everyone, all the time.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:23 pm to Scruffy
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The city makes me feel claustrophobic, and I’m not one to have issues with most things.
What thing in life will make a young man do something well outside of his comfort zone? You probably guessed it. A woman, that I happened to be engaged to
I'm not a NYC guy. I wasn't really in my 20s either but I'm definitely not now. I'm plotting how I can finish my career working remotely from some small mountain town when my youngest kid gets out of school in 5 years.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:24 pm to ShortyRob
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Namely, that now, YOUNG workers are fricking computer illiterate?
I have not.
Although I am single with no kids and most of my friends don't have kids, so I don't spend much time around Gen Z.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:29 pm to fallguy_1978
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I'm an educated country boy. The fascination with the big city and bright lights wore off fairly quickly for me
Regarding both of your conversation, I’m a country boy who picked up technology in the late 90s. There wasn’t much market for making money where I lived in west Texas so I moved between Austin and Dallas (not Waco) for a better opportunity. I managed to get a job working for a company in San Antonio, making SA money, while living on the outskirts of a town of about 60k.
I’ll never live in the city but my job doesn’t lend itself to making money where I want to live so this is an acceptable compromise.
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. I'm plotting how I can finish my career working remotely from some small mountain town when my youngest kid gets out of school in 5 years
Most of my work is remote but I have to be onsite for firewall hardware changes. After a week in steamboat springs last year I was looking for director of technology jobs at the city or school district for a few months.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:32 pm to Wtxtiger
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And because you can play on your I phone
This is why people think the older generations are ignorant.
I didn't have an Iphone until my mid 20's.
I grew up when VCR's were all the rage, had corded phones, no remotes to televisions, etc...
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Maybe you should open your eyes and ears and see that there is always something to learn from someone
I never said there wasn't. But the older generations love to throw age around like it's a badge of honor. Yet you need help starting up a computer.
We are eager to learn from experienced individuals, but the smugness and arrogance that older generations exhibit towards those younger than them is a major turn off to younger folks who want to have a professional relationship with those who are "experienced".
If you older folks would shut the frick up once in a while, you'd realize that you need us as much as we need you. But you won't because you're too busy boasting about how your age somehow makes you king over anyone younger than you.
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One day you will grow up.
Ok gramps, I'll get off your lawn.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:33 pm to 3nOut
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I’ll never live in the city but my job doesn’t lend itself to making money where I want to live so this is an acceptable compromise.
I'm in your boat too. We work in the same field. I've made a decent living in South Louisiana so I'm reasonably confident that I can do it elsewhere. I just have zero desire to live in a place like Houston. Luckily remote options are pretty abundant in our line of work.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:34 pm to 3nOut
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After a week in steamboat springs last year I was looking for director of technology jobs at the city or school district for a few months.
If you ever want to have a good laugh, read the "credit report" in the Steamboat newspaper. When things of such import like, "police received a phone call about a car driving too fast down Lincoln" are deemed newsworthy, you know you're in a good town.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:40 pm to HempHead
Oh I am aware. Front page news when I was there was about bears in town for multiple days. That place is my dream as a trail runner.
I really love Texas and the South but if the chance comes after my kids are gone to go there or Flagstaff I’m going to have to pray long and hard about it.
I really love Texas and the South but if the chance comes after my kids are gone to go there or Flagstaff I’m going to have to pray long and hard about it.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:43 pm to KyrieElaison
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The fact is very social program has been called socialism. It’s the right wings fear tactic when they can’t argue intellectually.
This is a bitch arse comment being that half of this thread is legit arguments against Bernies actual policies.
He goes out if his way to describe himself as a democratic SOCIALIST. Why not own it?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:47 pm to 3nOut
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I really love Texas and the South but if the chance comes after my kids are gone to go there or Flagstaff I’m going to have to pray long and hard about it.
I'd bail tomorrow for the cooler weather and scenery. I'm reasonably anti social now anyway so local culture doesn't matter much anymore.
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