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re: New recent study on the use of Ivermectin for Covid
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:02 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:02 am to NC_Tigah
The issue is we are beyond the “might help, probably won’t hurt” phase.
We have things we know will work.
Regarding the study in the OP, meta analyses are a case of garbage in = garbage out.
We have things we know will work.
Regarding the study in the OP, meta analyses are a case of garbage in = garbage out.
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:03 am to stout
Why aren’t we focusing on treatments instead of vaccines? It’s already obvious they don’t prevent infection. If you’ve got ways to effectively treat the virus, then that’s one more tool at getting people past this and things back to normal.
Unless of course you want to keep things locked down and big pharma’s pockets lined….
Unless of course you want to keep things locked down and big pharma’s pockets lined….
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:17 am to Penrod
There is no science or facts regarding this virus. Money and politics has vitiated everything. You can't have the political spectrum and doctors alikesplit 50/50 on this.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:20 am to Tiguar
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The issue is we are beyond the “might help, probably won’t hurt” phase.
Sure but the mistrust created by the original response is partly why people have strong opinions about trusting the science as it pertains to the vaccines.
As far as Ivermectin, it is my understanding that the medical community KNEW it had anti-viral and anti-inflammation properties both of which would apply to Covid. We also knew the dosages weren’t not anything to be concerned about and the drug was cheap and easily mass produced.
How is that not enough to say at the beginning “well we don’t know if this will help but it won’t hurt so let’s roll with it”? Conversely the message was DONT TAKE IT bc we don’t know if it will work.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 8:29 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:26 am to ruzil
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It's been estimated that 85% of the 600K covid deaths in America could have been prevented with early treatment with Ivermectin and HCQ.
Source?
FWIW, I tend to believe that and, if so, media and medical PTB need to get charges of crimes against humanity and strung up. The constant OMB syndrome killed masses of people.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:27 am to HubbaBubba
I was was getting my arse kicked by covid and went to my Dr, He prescribed a 5 or 6 Day dose of Ivermectin and another antibiotic.
Gave me instructions to stay hydrated, walk as often as I could around the house, sit outside in the sun when possible, make sure I did some breathing exercises to keep my lungs working properly, and 2-3 days in I started feeling better. The fever broke which was the biggest problem for me, and started feeling much better a week after my first visit. It took a little longer to clear my lungs, and I was still weak but on the mend.
He had prescribed all his covid patients the same routine and none ended up in the hospital. Thank you Dr.
Not a controlled study and very anecdotal, but made me believe.
Gave me instructions to stay hydrated, walk as often as I could around the house, sit outside in the sun when possible, make sure I did some breathing exercises to keep my lungs working properly, and 2-3 days in I started feeling better. The fever broke which was the biggest problem for me, and started feeling much better a week after my first visit. It took a little longer to clear my lungs, and I was still weak but on the mend.
He had prescribed all his covid patients the same routine and none ended up in the hospital. Thank you Dr.
Not a controlled study and very anecdotal, but made me believe.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:30 am to HubbaBubba
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My only questions are, were these studies cherry picked, or randomized in the selection of studies to include in the analysis? How many Ivermectin controlled studies have there been? What percentage of Ivermectin studies against Covid-19 do these represent?
Imagine a fifth of this scrutiny directed at vaccine deaths
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:39 am to theunknownknight
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Actual studies need to be funded
Pharma isn’t going to fund something that would kill the cash cow
The NIH and the CDC aren’t going to fund a study that reduces the “emergency powers” and over reach of the government
As someone pointed out in another thread, Eisenhower was right about the scientific elite creating groupthink and not allowing dissenting voices.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:05 am to stout
Take it for what it’s worth, my family had Covid a few weeks ago. Started with my daughter who is in high school. She started with fever on a Thursday, tested positive on Friday. We tried to get a prescription for ivermectin but couldn’t. We got a hold of the animal version and got the correct dosages for treatment and preventative care for the rest of the family on Saturday AM. We all took one dose, daughter took her second dose on Sunday and was shooting baskets in the drive way that afternoon. Complete turn around with 24hrs. I got sick the following Tuesday. Not proud of it but I am over weight, take blood pressure medicine and have autoimmune issues. According to the media and doctors I should have been a statistic! I stepped up my doses and was symptom free within 36hrs. I was well enough to cut the grass on day 4. My wife, eventually got it after she had 3 preventative doses and had a mild fever for a few hours and cold symptoms for about a week. Youngest son never got it and the oldest tested negative and fled the house hold! I know at least 20 people who hand success with ivermectin, the key is early treatment. Don’t wait! We followed the covid19 critical care doctors protocols.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:14 am to FriscoKid
Did you take anything else with it? It seems to be more effective when used with Vitamins C & D as well as Zinc
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:25 am to theunknownknight
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“emergency powers”
This is the biggest gift the DEM wanna-be tyrants could have received. They want the COVID panDEMic to hand around long enough for them to take total control.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:30 am to Penrod
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I have a study that proves that walking a mile per day backwards cures covid. Now, are we going to just accept that?
Peer review does not verify the actual results. Its not like there are people out there conducting the same study to see if their results match.
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Peer reviewers are not fraud detectors. They also do not verify the accuracy of a research study.
The peer-review process varies significantly among academic journals.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:32 am to STEVED00
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When the HCQ stuff came out and Trump mentioned it, there was almost an immediate hit piece out against it. It was literally baffling bc there was essentially NOTHING TO LOSE. There were no vaccines and it was CLEAR that there were NO SAFETY concerns with the levels of HCQ being prescribed. There was LITERALLY DECADES of data saying the drug was EXTREMELY SAFE at the levels prescribed.
I know nothing about medical and pharmaceutical stuff, but the above statement is enough for me to endorse trying it when there is NO DOWNSIDE to doing it.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:47 am to stout
Rumor is that Phizer is trying to come out with an Ivermectin/Hydroxichloroquine combo pill to get around the generic status of both drugs and make money on prevention and treatment...
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 am to Texas Yarddog
Its based on the effectiveness of ivermectin in the studies assuming it was used on day 1.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:29 am to Tigahs24Seven
You watch. Everyone will be touting it since it has Pfizer on the package instead of a horse. And it will be wildly effective just like Ivermectin is right now.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:50 am to stout
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Vitamins C & D as well as Zinc
I took plenty of that in my case
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:57 am to Droplinebacker
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Thanks for this. Ive been keeping up with these studies, and this summarizes all of the results thus far. It's so crazy that no-one wants to believe real science, only Faucian "science".
Just had a conversation with my Dr. about this, earlier this morning.
I asked her if they would write an HCQ/Ivermectin Rx if I got a positive COVID test, she said "Absolutely not. There's no studies that show that it's a beneficial treatment."
I then asked her what their treatment would be, and she told me that they'd send me home, quarantine for 10 days and "keep an eye on your symptoms", with going to the ER the only course of action "if your condition declined."
WTF kind of treatment plan is that?
I also asked her why there are COVID concerns for HCQ when folks have been taking it for 70+ years for lupus, malaria, etc? She said "Those patients are being monitored. If we prescribed it for you for COVID, you aren't being monitored."
Unreal.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:04 am to stout
Yes, lots of stuff! We used the Math+ protocol from the covid19 critical care doctors. For both treatment and preventative care.
Math+ protocol
Math+ protocol
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:11 am to VoxDawg
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Those patients are being monitored. If we prescribed it for you for COVID, you aren't being monitored.
Your doctor is a liar and a bitch. Get a new one.
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