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Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:34 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:34 am to
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More like people chose to vote for this.


I dont remember anyone campaigning on it.

But Student loans have to be revamped. Have to, not an option anymore.

Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:35 am to
Considering your general femininity I could see how this would be upsetting unfortunately not all nurses are female
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:36 am to
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I have three nurses in my family. They’re concerned about this because if they wanted to go back and pursue their PA degree they cannot get financial aid.


Boo hoo. This is one reason why medical is so expensive because it’s subsidized from the beginning.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:36 am to
They aren't professionals. Their training does not require a bachelor's degree prior.

Engineering and chemistry, physics etc aren't "professional" careers either. I fall into this bucket. In no way is this an insult to anyone. Its merely a classification for a class of careers which require a bachelor's prior to training. This training is very narrow and niche.

Nurses are fricking stupid and insufferable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:38 am to
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This is just women pissed off because they are being "victimized" again


Teachers unions have been screaming for "professional" status for decades. Its hilarious

Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1608 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:38 am to
This comment shows your ignorance on this issue. You just threw out a comment and it proves your submission to feelings and emotions, not facts.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:38 am to
Glad we can agree on something here Roger
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
5122 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:39 am to
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However, per a 1965 federal law (via USA Today), nursing was never on the list of professional degrees. So, what does it all mean? While nursing degree definitions aren't changing, it's still bad news.


It seems like the law is outdated and needs to be changed.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17795 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:40 am to
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What it boils down to is that professional degrees will have higher loan caps than non-professional degrees. With nursing considered a non-professional degree, despite the fact that there are master's-level programs for nursing and nurse practitioners, they will be subject to loan caps for non-professional degrees, which are significantly lower.


The loan caps are commensurate with the typical cost of the degrees. Look at the caps as a percentage of the total average cost of the degrees.

It’s a federal designation for funding, nothing more. People shouldn’t read into more than that.

ETA: Except theology. That one is probably tied to lobbying or politics.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38429 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:43 am to
Isn't this just part of the plan to cap what universities can charge for degrees?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67198 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:43 am to
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That’s the MAGA way


That's why there's a number of women in important cabinet positions for Trump. I swear some of you are one step above needing a personal caretaker.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127348 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:45 am to
It simply a change in designation to apply downward pressure on professional degree pricing.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60295 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:49 am to
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my grandma was a nurse with no schooling.


We should let people be doctors and lawyers and engineers with no schooling. Someone’s grandparent did these jobs without schooling at some point

Let’s just get rid of schools. They just indoctrinate people and teach them things. We have YouTube and Twitter now. We don’t need schools.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:49 am to
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Isn't this just part of the plan to cap what universities can charge for degrees?


Indirectly. Govt subsidies destroyed Post Sec. education for a lot of folks, just like its done to child care and health care.

My ex is an RN. She got her AA, was hired by a specialty hospital who then paid for her AA, and then paid for her BS, as long as she worked for them a number of years.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127348 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:51 am to
A buddy’s wife got her masters in social work from Wash U because she “wanted to learn from the best.” If she was doing it today, she would be paying $2,688/credit hour.

An MSW degree is 85 hrs at Wash U.

An average MSW makes around $70k in Missouri.

A 20 year repayment makes the payment ~$2200.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27292 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:00 am to
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We should let people be doctors and lawyers and engineers with no schooling. Someone’s grandparent did these jobs without schooling at some point



Do you not understand that there are vastly different levels of nursing? It goes from about the same level as mopping a floor to just short of being a doctor.

One of the main requirements for something being a "profession" has always been that it's self-regulating. Things like engineering, doctors, whatever. But I would think that some nursing fields fall under that description and some don't.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127348 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:02 am to
Nurse practitioner organizations have been lobbying that there needs to be more of them in rural areas.

Then they graduate and do lip filler injections in the suburbs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:04 am to
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We should let people be doctors and lawyers and engineers with no schooling.


Typical progressive female histrionics.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62929 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:05 am to
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Nurse practitioner organizations have been lobbying that there needs to be more of them in rural areas.
WHy do they hate rural people?

My favorite are teh NPs that get a DNP, the insist everyone call them "Doctor". F*cking frauds.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27292 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:07 am to
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Nurse practitioner organizations have been lobbying that there needs to be more of them in rural areas.

Then they graduate and do lip filler injections in the suburbs.


Eh, no different than "doctors" who bolt silicone tits onto those same housewives. They're still technically legit professional doctors.

When my primary care doc I'd had for decades retired I ended up with an LNP. I don't need to see a specialist for annual bloodwork or strep throat. Financially it makes sense to me to have different levels of care with different cost levels.
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