re: OK. A little education on security clearances

Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:56 pm to BayouBlitz

Posted by starsandstripes

Georgia

Member since Nov 2017

11897 posts

Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:56 pm to BayouBlitz

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So please, enough with the "Everyone should have their clearance taken when they leave their job".

If you're not in the position, you don't need access, and if you don't need access then you don't need a clearance. Further, way too many positions are constructed with a need to know - especially on the contractor side - when there isn't an actual need to know or any other reason justifying a clearance.

A good example is in training areas for DoD. Former military types go contractor and the contractor writes into the agreement that they will have an active clearance. What do they use it for? Almost nothing. They will sit in on some briefs or presentations about equipment capabilities and worthless shite like that. But they don't really need to be there. The active duty folks that are instructors - they can handle that load easily. With few and rare exceptions, when you see 'Secure Area' posted somewhere, all contractors should be coming to a full stop.

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That is ignorant

Nope.

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and not how the system works at all

It is how the system works and the vast majority of people have their clearance pulled when they leave a position / duty status. It's the top echelon and those with TSSCI that conveniently time their exit from the G to coincide with renewal of their investigation, that abuse the system.

They saunter off to Booze or somewhere and cash in for a position that is not needed, an administrative carryover of a clearance they will never actually need, and we the taxpayers get fricked over as a result because the contracts and salaries are grossly inflated as a result. These contracts are generally written to cover the costs of investigations. But if they can get someone without needing one, they can use that money as a hiring bonus and to prop up the company bottom line. It's a scam.

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You wouldn't have any private companies with enough people with clearances to do the work the federal government requires.

This is complete bullshite for several reasons:
1) the investigation is intact and it doesn't cost much for a company to request an update and granting of clearance once again. This takes some time but does not cost much for the company or the govt.
2) who cares if we suddenly have a dearth of 'cleared' people to work in contracted positions? WE. DON'T. frickING. NEED. THEM. We have too many contractors out there already and it's a known security risk but the DC swamp allows it to go on because it's part of the cycle of money.
3) the federal govt does not "require" even 50% of the work it claims is needed. It's all corruption and fake bullshite to rape the taxpayer.

A company should have to reimburse the gov in a pro-rated fashion for the cost of an ivnestigation if someone leaves gov and jumps to a private company for a position claiming a need for a clearance.