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re: On this Sunday morning, can we have a little chat about religion?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:52 am to LSUbacchus81
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:52 am to LSUbacchus81
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This confuses me, though,
It should. Near death experiences are mostly psychological, not religious, phenomena.
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:54 am to mudcat tiger
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why God chooses to reveal Himself that way
There are a lot of different ways that God reveals Himself. Sometimes it is based on the circumstances people are in. There are Christians in Iran who have said that they were visited by Jesus who taught them from the Scriptures. The Apostle Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus. Ultimately God knows what it takes for each individual to believe.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:57 am to the808bass
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It should. Near death experiences are mostly psychological, not religious, phenomena.
This is my understanding as well. People from Christian backgrounds/majority geographical areas tend to have Christian NDEs, people from Hindu backgrounds/majority geographical areas tend to have Hindu NDEs.
I think when these uncommon occurrences do occur, people tend to see what they expect to see, or at least what their subconscious expects to see.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:59 am to LSUbacchus81
“He has showed thee oh man what is good, and what doth the Lord require of thee. But to act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God”. Everyone does not need to have a near death experience to know how you need to live.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:10 pm to LRB1967
I agree with you. We may not always agree or understand why God reveals Himself in different ways but I DO know and trust that His ways are always perfect.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:12 pm to Cuz413
Ain’t no atheist in a fox hole.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:13 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Let’s be as pragmatic as we can about it. Living your life by the tenants of Christianity gives you a good anchor in life, a way to act, something to believe in, something to look forward to. It’s a great way to live and if we are wrong and there isn’t anything after this then we will never ever know. Seems like a solid hedge
So it's like the lottery? Gotta play to win?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:14 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Produce an experience concerning the belief in Buddha .....
Bet you can't
Bet you can't
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:15 pm to LSUbacchus81
This is the Political Talk board. Theological conversations and conversations about religion do not belong here.
Such conversations have a place on TD, and that place is the OT.
The written Rules of TD are that no such conversations are allowed anywhere on TD.
Such conversations have a place on TD, and that place is the OT.
The written Rules of TD are that no such conversations are allowed anywhere on TD.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:16 pm to ole man
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Ain’t no atheist in a fox hole.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:18 pm to LSUbacchus81
Goggle James Woodford for an interesting NDE account. Really smart and honest guy with no (apparent) axe to grind. There are Religions who believe that death and this particular life is not the absolute and final determining criteria for a judgment to either heaven or hell. It is - albeit definitive towards which way one is moving - but only one life in a progression and refinement of the character and reality that is based on one’s ultimate preference and value. Love and Unity being the ultimate Value in the ‘Heaven’ paradigm. With Lucifer’s Self worship being the polar opposite, and the path to Absolute Aloneness, even from God, in the Hell reality. This present version of ‘You’ is but a temporal, albeit singularly unique and never again existing - as we evolve and transform our ‘Self’ into the character of our chosen values. “For it is appointed for a man to live once, and then the judgment “. Assuming said Judgment into the next life is based precisely on one’s beliefs and actions in this life, then that Judgmental Axiom explains what we see as ‘injustice’ re God’s apparent “predestination “ for both the blessed and cursed (from birth) in this life. The ‘trump Card’ re one’s rightfully-earned and deserved Karma would be the authority of Jesus to mitigate/forgive sin. Everybody can and will believe whatever the are comfortable with, as there is plenty of justification for all beliefs. Good luck in your search for Truth. And if you aren’t too proud to ask for help, at a price (“ye are bought with a price “, then I humbly suggest that you ask Jesus first, before the Poliboard. Jesus- if such exists- made the promise as “Savior “ and must fulfill it, while the Board just lets it rip.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:19 pm to Champagne
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This is the Political Talk board. Theological conversations and conversations about religion do not belong here.
Such conversations have a place on TD, and that place is the OT.
The written Rules of TD are that no such conversations are allowed anywhere on TD.
Quick, you're needed here as well!
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:25 pm to Azkiger
So?
Trump's Christianity is something that we need. He should be POTUS, if the USA is worth saving at all. If the USA rejects Trump, I doubt it is worth saving, because, it will become a force for evil in the world, and not good. Such forces, we know, will be destroyed during the Last Days.
Getting back to my point -
We should not have Religion or Theological conversations on PT, because they are never constructive. All such conversations do here is to put people at odds with one another, and, almost always, the people are usually end up at odds with one another are people that should and would otherwise be on the same side with regard to Politics.
So, there's a very good reason why we should avoid Religion here, and it is because it tends to turn Political Allies into enemies of one another. People on the Right Wing and MAGA side will be at each other's throats over RELIGION when this forum is supposed to be about Politics.
There's a practical reason for the TD rule to be enforced. You can't see that? My point flies over your head or do you see my point?
Trump's Christianity is something that we need. He should be POTUS, if the USA is worth saving at all. If the USA rejects Trump, I doubt it is worth saving, because, it will become a force for evil in the world, and not good. Such forces, we know, will be destroyed during the Last Days.
Getting back to my point -
We should not have Religion or Theological conversations on PT, because they are never constructive. All such conversations do here is to put people at odds with one another, and, almost always, the people are usually end up at odds with one another are people that should and would otherwise be on the same side with regard to Politics.
So, there's a very good reason why we should avoid Religion here, and it is because it tends to turn Political Allies into enemies of one another. People on the Right Wing and MAGA side will be at each other's throats over RELIGION when this forum is supposed to be about Politics.
There's a practical reason for the TD rule to be enforced. You can't see that? My point flies over your head or do you see my point?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:26 pm to Champagne
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So?
Trump's Christianity is something that we need. He should be POTUS, if the USA is worth saving at all. If the USA rejects Trump, I doubt it is worth saving, because, it will become a force for evil in the world, and not good. Such forces, we know, will be destroyed during the Last Days.
Getting back to my point -
We should not have Religion or Theological conversations on PT, because they are never constructive. All such conversations do here is to put people at odds with one another, and, almost always, the people are usually end up at odds with one another are people that should and would otherwise be on the same side with regard to Politics.
So, there's a very good reason why we should avoid Religion here, and it is because it tends to turn Political Allies into enemies of one another. People on the Right Wing and MAGA side will be at each other's throats over RELIGION when this forum is supposed to be about Politics.
There's a practical reason for the TD rule to be enforced. You can't see that? My point flies over your head or do you see my point?
I thought it were obvious, but perhaps not.
What do you think I meant by my reply to you?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:27 pm to yakster
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Everyone does not need to have a near death experience to know how you need to live.
Sure, but that doesn't explain why a fair and just God allows this for only some people.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:32 pm to Champagne
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We should not have Religion or Theological conversations on PT, because they are never constructive. All such conversations do here is to put people at odds with one another, and, almost always, the people are usually end up at odds with one another are people that should and would otherwise be on the same side with regard to Politics.
So, there's a very good reason why we should avoid Religion here, and it is because it tends to turn Political Allies into enemies of one another. People on the Right Wing and MAGA side will be at each other's throats over RELIGION when this forum is supposed to be about Politics.
There's a practical reason for the TD rule to be enforced. You can't see that? My point flies over your head or do you see my point?
Everyone seems to be having a civil convo over the topic. You are the first one that seems to be upset, so maybe it's just a you thing.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:38 pm to LSUbacchus81
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All such conversations do here is to put people at odds with one another...
Ironic considering that he just shite on Catholics and called them idolatrizers in another religious thread on this same board minutes after posting this.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:42 pm to Azkiger
this one.... Nice prayer, but, why on earth would Trump pray to anybody other than Jesus Christ? Seems like Idolatry to me. Trump is an Idolator. I can't vote for that. 
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...Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:43 pm to LSUbacchus81
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this one.... Nice prayer, but, why on earth would Trump pray to anybody other than Jesus Christ? Seems like Idolatry to me. Trump is an Idolator. I can't vote for that.
Yep, that's the one. His post to you came across as douchy and I figured he'd not have the IQ or self control not to make an immediate arse of himself when I posted the link to point him in that thread's direction. Turns out I had him pegged quite well.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:45 pm to LSUbacchus81
I recommend spending an hour or so a day reading or listening to the bible. Youtube has a very good complete bible reading.
Learn from the wisdom of it. You don't need to take every verse literally. In fact, I would recommend you don't. Instead, dwell on the lessons.
No one is perfect. Even the men and women that God spoke to directly were apt to make mistakes. That's the very first lesson of the bible. Failure is human. The various tests that we are challenged with, sometimes make it difficult to maintain faith. Instead, remember that God loves you and no matter how bad things might seem, you are never alone.
Here's one of my favorite quotes from the book, "Where the Red Fern Grows."
In fact, if you haven't read, "Where the Red Fern Grows" you should read it too. Very inspired book, and should be required reading for everyone. (I remember reading it in school.) Lots of good lessons about faith and loyalty.
Learn from the wisdom of it. You don't need to take every verse literally. In fact, I would recommend you don't. Instead, dwell on the lessons.
No one is perfect. Even the men and women that God spoke to directly were apt to make mistakes. That's the very first lesson of the bible. Failure is human. The various tests that we are challenged with, sometimes make it difficult to maintain faith. Instead, remember that God loves you and no matter how bad things might seem, you are never alone.
Here's one of my favorite quotes from the book, "Where the Red Fern Grows."
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I went to my mother and asked her if God answered prayers every time one was said. She smiled and said, "No, Billy, not every time. He only answers the ones that are said from the heart. You have to be sincere and believe in Him.
In fact, if you haven't read, "Where the Red Fern Grows" you should read it too. Very inspired book, and should be required reading for everyone. (I remember reading it in school.) Lots of good lessons about faith and loyalty.
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