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re: PB Heads Up. Levin Now. EMP Expert re the Grid going down.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:22 am to Volvagia
Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:22 am to Volvagia
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Related to that: one of the biggest myths with EMP is this notion of something that takes out any circuitry. You need an antenna to conduct the voltage, around at minimum 24-36 inches in length. My iPhone X, as sophisticated as it is, will be completely unfazed by an EMP, simply because it can’t conduct sufficient voltages. It just won’t have cell towers to connect to anymore. So if you unplug the battery, and isolate the entertainment circuitry (particularly the radio antenna), and the ground, you should be fine. Granted, it’s doubtful you’ll have that done when the EMP actually hits.
If a solar EMP destroyed the telegraph system in 1859 I'll go with the experts/scientists who predict we'd be fricked if such an event struck the earth today.
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:25 am to RCDfan1950
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Expert re the Grid going down
It's times like this where I appreciate my down home country roots.
And maybe it's the old man coming out in me, but I think I'd enjoy some time off the grid.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:28 am to Jjdoc
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Estimated we would lose upto 90% of our population
Talk about the need for personal protection!!
Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:30 am to ChineseBandit58
2 Baws enter one Baw leaves
Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:43 am to golfntiger32
Im starting to prepare.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:32 am to Bass Tiger
That reply literally had nothing contradictory with anything stated in my post
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 7:46 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:46 am to Volvagia
Reminder: buy a generac and a thousand gallon gas tank.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:55 am to RCDfan1950
We should completely nuke anyone that EMP's us.
We never should've let it get to a point where an EMP could do this much damage to us.
We never should've let it get to a point where an EMP could do this much damage to us.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:36 am to Crimson Wraith
The problem is that a properly planned EMP can be almost impossible to be preemptive about.
Might have 90-120 seconds of warning, if that if the nuke is already in orbit posing as a benign satellite.
So you’ll have mass confusion, broken C&C, and an ambiguous source.
Might have 90-120 seconds of warning, if that if the nuke is already in orbit posing as a benign satellite.
So you’ll have mass confusion, broken C&C, and an ambiguous source.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:42 am to Jjdoc
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Estimated we would lose upto 90% of our population
People in big cities are screwed.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:51 am to Havoc
More than that.
I always get amused with the confidence that emerges in this threads.
There is a big arse difference between occasionally bagging a kill and relying on it for subsidence for an extended period.
And that’s ignoring side folklore making basics like soap.
Essentially we would abruptly move from a wasteful consumer based lifestyle to a waste NOTHING zero sum one.
Sure, people will survive.
But the numbers aren’t solely based on “Dem city folk don’t know how to hunt”
The country literally can’t support that many people on that level of food gathering.
I always get amused with the confidence that emerges in this threads.
There is a big arse difference between occasionally bagging a kill and relying on it for subsidence for an extended period.
And that’s ignoring side folklore making basics like soap.
Essentially we would abruptly move from a wasteful consumer based lifestyle to a waste NOTHING zero sum one.
Sure, people will survive.
But the numbers aren’t solely based on “Dem city folk don’t know how to hunt”
The country literally can’t support that many people on that level of food gathering.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:14 am to fjlee90
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It's times like this where I appreciate my down home country roots.
Agree. I was taught as a kid how to be self sufficient if needed. Growing up on a farm as much as I hated it, taught me valuable life lessons.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:06 am to Wtxtiger
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Well if that would happen, the complete failure of the grid nationally where all electrical power was out for years, it would mean the extinction of the progressive liberal in the United States of America.
...
Most conservatives too. Life-saving apparatuses that use electricity are apolitical.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:41 pm to Dale51
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Thats it?? 2 billion frickin dollars??
This is about the amount we GIVE to Ethiopia in Foreign aid in three years - it should not be a problem.
Foreign aid Wiki
Posted on 4/23/18 at 2:00 pm to Volvagia
Follow up to the above, regardless of the ability, the most the entire continental US can support in the absence of modern technology: tractors, pesticides, artificial fertilizers, etc is around 50 million.
And that’s if every inch of usable land is held by those who know how to use it.
And that’s if every inch of usable land is held by those who know how to use it.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:19 pm to Volvagia
Agree completely. Suburb people are essentially in the same boat as urban, I think it's just a matter of time it takes to feel the effects. Effects meaning everything from chaos and lawlessness to shortage of supplies esp food.
Urban almost immediately. Suburban, maybe a few weeks. Even rural people, although largely insulated from the chaos would feel other effects pretty soon unless they are well stocked, or already production-oriented (farms, crops) or are able to adapt to production with relatively ease. For example, my immediate family (rural) would probably be a mixture of those three, i.e. Somewhat stocked up, somewhat already producing (garden, ponds, woods, access to livestock) and able to start growing more crops and raising livestock pretty quickly.
But yeah just because someone is rural doesn't guarantee an easy path, nothing does except perhaps for the prepper people that are extremely prepared and stocked up.
Urban almost immediately. Suburban, maybe a few weeks. Even rural people, although largely insulated from the chaos would feel other effects pretty soon unless they are well stocked, or already production-oriented (farms, crops) or are able to adapt to production with relatively ease. For example, my immediate family (rural) would probably be a mixture of those three, i.e. Somewhat stocked up, somewhat already producing (garden, ponds, woods, access to livestock) and able to start growing more crops and raising livestock pretty quickly.
But yeah just because someone is rural doesn't guarantee an easy path, nothing does except perhaps for the prepper people that are extremely prepared and stocked up.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:21 pm to Wtxtiger
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Well if that would happen, the complete failure of the grid nationally where all electrical power was out for years, it would mean the extinction of the progressive liberal in the United States of America.
We all have to make sacrifices for the common good, I am ready for those bastards to be extinct
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:27 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:here it is.
Is that Levin on TV or the radio? Would like to hear a replay of it.
Life, Liberty & Levin 4/22/18 | Mark Levin Fox News Sunday April 22, 2018 - YouTube
LINK
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:39 am to Havoc
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For example, my immediate family (rural) would probably be a mixture of those three, i.e. Somewhat stocked up, somewhat already producing (garden, ponds, woods, access to livestock) and able to start growing more crops and raising livestock pretty quickly.
No doubt this setting has the best chance for success, but just to illustrate the point of how consumer driven we are and it being so ingrained that we don’t even think about it:
Do they have any skill in reclaiming seeds?
Or do they always just go to the store and buy more?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 4:30 am to Volvagia
I like me and my families chances should this horrid event occur
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