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re: People voted "against Trump"...Prove it
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:53 pm to TheQuestion
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:53 pm to TheQuestion
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Wow you are obtuse. I am not the person making the claim. I am asking how anyone actually knows this and how it adds up to any significant amount of votes for Biden like people claim when trying to defend evidence of election irregularities. It's absurd and you continue to prove you don't even understand the point.
There are some things that you can never know with absolute certainty. One of those things is the motivation for why people vote for who they vote for. However it's not unreasonable to suspect that at least some people vote against a candidate. Some of the more obvious examples would be Hillary and Trump. And for a Louisiana example a very obvious one would be David Duke. People vote against people and everyone knows this. Can you accurately quantify this down to a single digit number? No. The best we have is exit polling data. The level of proof you would need to be convinced is impossible to reproduce. So you're asking stupid questions.
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:57 pm to TheQuestion
I RA’ed for quality control
The OP is a low quality bot, and it can’t prove it’s not
The OP is a low quality bot, and it can’t prove it’s not
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:05 pm to Jayrod79
quote:You’ve clearly never met white women
You don't gain millions more votes because your hated
Which is sad, you stuck in a bunker or something? Can we help?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:05 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'll worry about that when the primary is over.
It was over before it started. You do you though. We still have some freedoms before your Statist RINO's and Dims command to us how to live, should your side win. Peace.
PS. My job better than your job and I have no clue nor care WTF you do. LOL
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:24 pm to RemouladeSawce
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You’ve clearly never met white women
Yeah being white I've never ran into one. What do they look like?
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Which is sad, you stuck in a bunker or something? Can we help?
I'm missing your point here please elaborate. Trump gains 10 million plus more votes and your point is I've never met white women? How did white women make 30 million more votes? Are you positive it was all white women? Are you sure that all those votes needed to over take Trump who won 18/19 bw counties and won Ohio and Florida, first pres to lose with high economy rating, lose when gaining votes , and lose with video proof and confessions from treasonous pos are white women?
I will say and with 100 percent confidence the election was rigged and nobody including myself will ever know how many votes were legitimately cast in the 2020 election.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:26 pm to Speckhunter2012
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It was over before it started.
No, it wasn't. You dumbasses just can't let go and make good things happen for this country.
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We still have some freedoms before your Statist RINO's and Dims command to us how to live, should your side win.
You mean like weaponizing the DOJ to attack our Constitutional rights? Who would do such a thing?
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My job better than your job
Jobs...
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:31 pm to TheQuestion
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I'm fascinated that you were so easily duped by the MSM in to believing that trash narrative. We have no idea how many people actually voted against Trump yet, that idiotic idea is still being repeated even though it's been torn to shreds
It is a bit difficult to be duped by something you don't consume but I suppose it can occur from second-order effects.
Outside of polls or individual affirmations, we have no idea why anyone voted for any candidate. I am however nonplussed at the idea someone can be so insular as not to see how polarizing Trump was and remains. It does not seem like much of a logical leap to hatred being a key component in someone's impetus to vote for the other candidate even if they aren't enamored with that other candidate. My opinion is based on talking to hundreds of people over the last 2 1/2 years and it became very clear to me that the vast majority of those who voted for Biden did it as much or more to prevent Trump from remaining in the White House than to ensure Biden occupied it or at least this is their offered explanation. It is completely possible that you don't have cause to interact with many Biden voters on a one-to-one basis. If this is the case it may well be the reason why you simply can't fathom the number of people that dislike Trump to the point they would vote primarily against him. It is a consistent theme on this board that Democrats are a wholly emotional species, if you believe this you have to acknowledge the posit that a lot of people voted specifically against Trump since they vote primarily on emotion and he is the king of evoking emotion both adoring and loathing.
I do think it is interesting that the sources you consume have led you to be focused on "81 million." While it is good succinct meme material is it also completely nongermane. It almost seems like a well-honed psyops to focus your attention away from the important. The focus should be solely on the tiny areas where Trump lost the election by ~40k votes.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:51 pm to Obtuse1
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I am however nonplussed at the idea someone can be so insular as not to see how polarizing Trump was and remains.
He’s trolling. No rational person can consider Trump non-polarizing. The answer to his question of whether or not there are anti-Trump voters was the democrats. It’s obvious and has been explained repeatedly in this thread but it doesn’t matter because the OP isn’t interested in listening and learning. He’s a troll. Have you read the entirety of this thread? If you haven’t I doubt it’s worth your time if you’re looking for serious discussion. But it might be good for some laughs.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:53 pm to Figgy
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No rational person can consider Trump non-polarizing.
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rational person
Found the problem.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You mean like weaponizing the DOJ to attack our Constitutional rights? Who would do such a thing?
Link?
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Jobs.
Loser.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:04 pm to TheQuestion
Anyone against Trump wanted a man that showered with his daughter naked with his naked erect dick to be president. There is no reasoning with them.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:07 pm to Speckhunter2012
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Link?
Do you agree that weaponizing the DOJ to attack our Constitutional rights is a bad thing and we shouldn't support someone who has done that?
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Loser.
How old are you? I'm 40 and retired in my 30s. I'm not sure bragging about a job is going to go the way you want it to go.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:12 pm to TheQuestion
I mean you have guys in here claiming that Trump is this evil dude and they thought a rotting corpse of a meat puppet that showed his erect penis to his daughter was the lesser of two evils.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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How old are you? I'm 40 and retired in my 30s. I'm not sure bragging about a job is going to go the way you want it to go.
"Retired in my 30's." LOL. You should be on the PDJT train then. Your investments were MUCH better under PDJT.
Are you voting for PDJT or not in the General? Nothing else matters. It's all theater, retired old man. LOL
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:58 am to Speckhunter2012
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Your investments were MUCH better under PDJT.
I'm not going to ignore 2020, and there are things besides money that I find important.
What do you think about someone who has weaponized the DOJ to attack our Constitutional rights?
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Are you voting for PDJT or not in the General?
I'll worry about that after the primary.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 6:59 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:33 am to Obtuse1
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Outside of polls or individual affirmations, we have no idea why anyone voted for any candidate. I am however nonplussed at the idea someone can be so insular as not to see how polarizing Trump was and remains. It does not seem like much of a logical leap to hatred being a key component in someone's impetus to vote for the other candidate even if they aren't enamored with that other candidate. My opinion is based on talking to hundreds of people over the last 2 1/2 years and it became very clear to me that the vast majority of those who voted for Biden did it as much or more to prevent Trump from remaining in the White House than to ensure Biden occupied it or at least this is their offered explanation. It is completely possible that you don't have cause to interact with many Biden voters on a one-to-one basis. If this is the case it may well be the reason why you simply can't fathom the number of people that dislike Trump to the point they would vote primarily against him. It is a consistent theme on this board that Democrats are a wholly emotional species, if you believe this you have to acknowledge the posit that a lot of people voted specifically against Trump since they vote primarily on emotion and he is the king of evoking emotion both adoring and loathing.
I do think it is interesting that the sources you consume have led you to be focused on "81 million." While it is good succinct meme material is it also completely nongermane. It almost seems like a well-honed psyops to focus your attention away from the important. The focus should be solely on the tiny areas where Trump lost the election by ~40k votes.
Ironic that you chastise people for missing the point re: 81 Million while missing the point re: motivations for dems voting. The argument isn't that people might vote for Biden because they hate Trump. The argument is that 10MM MORE people voted against him while he grew his base across all demographics but 1.
Dems are an emotional species but they are also lazy with notoriously low turnout.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:39 am to Robin Masters
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Dems are an emotional species but they are also lazy with notoriously low turnout.
Unless they're motivated to turn out, like they've been in the past.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:41 am to Robin Masters
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The argument is that 10MM MORE people voted against him while he grew his base across all demographics but 1.
As a FYI, when we say the pot of voters increased, we aren't implying that the increase was divvied out equally amongst each voting demographic. Kind of stands to reason that if there is a movement to vote against Trump, a substantial number of actual voters from that increase would derive from people outside of Trump's base, correct?
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 7:46 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:44 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Unless they're motivated to turn out, like they've been in the past.
It has always been a political "rule" that this doesn't happen. Dems always HATE the republican candidate and yet their turnout is always abysmal.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:44 am to Robin Masters
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Dems are an emotional species but they are also lazy with notoriously low turnout.
And guess what happens when they do turn out. All Republicans have to do is give them a good enough reason. Try hiring someone a little less polarizing, and I guarantee you'll win every time.
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