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re: Pope Francis permits Priests to bless same sex couples in major Vatican doctrine change
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:55 am to gaetti15
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:55 am to gaetti15
quote:
dont Presbyterians bless same sex marriages
No. There is a giant apostate “church” that still claims the original Protestant denomination names. But they have abandoned Christianity. It’s an anathema. Completely abandoned the authority of Scripture.
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:55 am to 4cubbies
quote:Sinners need forgiveness and to repent. With forgiveness and repentance comes blessing.
Who needs blessings more than sinners?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:56 am to McLemore
quote:
But they have abandoned Christianity. It’s an anathema. Completely abandoned the authority of Scripture.
so which ones are legit just for record keeping purposes?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:56 am to Fun Bunch
The False Prophet himself
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:56 am to gaetti15
quote:If you read Calvin on this you'll find that we definitely don't believe it's just some remembrance.
I mean at least we actually believe the Eucharist is the body blood soul and divinity of jesus not just some remembrance
So what is the essence of my lack of communion with you lot?
Is it my lack of allegiance to this truly wonderful pope?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:57 am to Fun Bunch
Any of y'all Mary worshippers ready to be drafted by the Protestants yet?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:57 am to Fun Bunch
I think a better view on this comes from this LINK it is kinda long but worth a read. What I understand is that the dicastery (not the pope) is saying you can bless a same sex couple outside of a liturgical action, just as anyone would approach a priest for a blessing. It doesn't look like Pope Francis nor the dicastery is changing Catholic teaching, just providing clarification on what to do about blessing couples in irregular situations (Aka divorced and remarried, and same sex couples)
one more note, the Pope did give approval to what was said in the document that was released today.
one more note, the Pope did give approval to what was said in the document that was released today.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:57 am to gaetti15
quote:
so which ones are legit just for record keeping purposes?
If you love me, keep my commandments.
Behold, I stand at the doorand knock...
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:57 am to gaetti15
quote:
so which ones are legit just for record keeping purposes?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:02 pm to RebelExpress38
You make great points that I agree with. My point, however, was that both the conservative and progressive churches justify their very different positions from the scripture alone.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:02 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
If you read Calvin on this you'll find that we definitely don't believe it's just some remembrance.
yeah but it's a symbol, there is no changing of the bread and wine into body and blood.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:08 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
So what is the essence of my lack of communion with you lot?
Is it my lack of allegiance to this truly wonderful pope?
couple of things all listed in the Nicene Creed. Those are the basic dogmas of the faith.
as well as the deposits of Faith. Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:08 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
Hopefully in 20-30 years Christianity will be down to the bare bones again of true believers.
Then we can really start talking about ecuminism.
Agreed. At that point, it will be the historic pre-reformation and historic protestant churches on one side, and the Trail of Blood dispensational landmarkists on the other.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:11 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
quote:
Any of y'all Mary worshippers ready to be drafted by the Protestants yet?
We do not worship Mary. We just ask for her to pray for us. It's no different than asking a group of friends to pray for you when you are going through a rough patch.
We also don't worship The Pope. He is just a priest at the end of the day. Same thing as any minister or preacher in any church. He is supposed to be a guide help us lead a good Christian life.
Francis however, is doing everything he can to be labeled an anti-pope, and for most Roman Catholics, we eagerly await the day The Church is being led by someone else who lives and preaches in accordance with Christ teachings. In the meantime, all we can do is pray to God that he bestows wisdom and clarity upon Francis to make him see the error of his ways.
As far as being a good steward of the faith, it has been a big dropoff from JPII and Pope Benedict XVI.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:11 pm to Stitches
quote:Ehh...not too sure about that. I've done a lot of academic research on Presbyterian history and the modernist/fundamentalist controversy. Honestly, the conservatives were more likely to lean on authority from their own historic confession, stating that the Bible was inerrant and that the Westminster Confession interpreted it correctly.
My point, however, was that both the conservative and progressive churches justify their very different positions from the scripture alone.
The mainline disagreed, holding that
quote:-Auburn Affirmation 1923
The Bible is not inerrant. The supreme guide of scripture interpretation is the Spirit of God to the individual believer and not ecclesiastical authority. Thus, "liberty of conscience" is elevated.
So there's a huge difference in the meaning of sola scriptura between those two positions, and neither of them were solo scriptura, which is sadly what most ignorant Protestants and nearly all of Catholics think sola scriptura is.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:14 pm to dbbuilder79
quote:
slippery slope
THIS
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:16 pm to Ribbed
quote:
God doesn't bless sin. Repent or ye shall all likewise perish.
Sin and sinners aren't the same thing. And by the teachings of the Catholic church everyone is a sinner. Congrats on the junior high literacy levels though.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:16 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
what is the essence of my lack of communion with you lot?
Yiu can still come up and get a bless...well, never mind
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:22 pm to bayoubengals88
I would argue that the latter is more of a solo position tbh, and I agree that the sola vs solo positions are often caricatured.
Most don't distinguish between ultimate authority and only authority.
Most don't distinguish between ultimate authority and only authority.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:23 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Pope Francis formally permits Roman Catholic priests to bless same-sex couples, in a major shift in Vatican doctrine
Strange.
GOD Himself does not permit anyone to sanctify homosexual behavior, let alone marriage.
But the Pope can? And he is the chosen messenger of GOD?
I'm having a little trouble believing that this Pope is anything but unholy. I'm glad I'm not Catholic right about now.
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