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re: Pope rebukes climate deniers as 'perverse'
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:07 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:07 am to cajunangelle
Strong practicing Catholic here. Don't like this Pope one bit. 
Hoping to return to the likes of JPII and Benedict XVI with the next Pope.
Hoping to return to the likes of JPII and Benedict XVI with the next Pope.
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:19 am to AustinTigr
I didn't vote for him.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:22 am to cajunangelle
Why is climate change political. The only ones that are making it political are the republicans. Everybody else in the world that isn’t on the oil companies pay roll knows climate change is a fact.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:24 am to cajunangelle
Offended by the pope. This is a whole new level of snowflake
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:25 am to cajunangelle
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Political marxist or antipope, or both?
He's certain a political Marxist, warmed over in the modern faculty lounge dressing of SJWs against race, class, and gender, with a special Argentinian Peronist focus on anti-colonialist, rain forest tree-hugging.
As for the antipope part, it's certainly plausible that he does not have authority as the legitimate pope.
First, I've long said that I don't think it's plausible to think that he is a true believer in Christianity. I tried my best to give him the benefit of the doubt in mid-2013, but by September 2013, it was pretty clear that this guy was an atheist with worldly objectives. Some past Catholic scholars (especially Bellarmine) have asserted that disbelief or heresy automatically terminates a papacy, but I don't hold that position.
Second, I also don't hold the position that there was anything procedurally improper about the election from the College of Cardinals, assuming that Pope Benedict's resignation was valid.
Third, I don't think Pope Benedict's resignation was coerced.
Fourth, however, I think that it is quite reasonable to hold the position that Benedict's resignation (and thus Francis's election too) was invalid, simply because all papal resignations of the sort attempted by Celestine V in 1294 and Benedict XVI in 2013 are always invalid. That means that nothing their successors (Boniface VIII & Francis) do as pope while their predecessors are still alive carries any weight in terms of infallibly interpreting the core deposit of faith.
The 4th point is obviously debatable, and probably incorrect, but it is not unreasonable, and in any case, it wouldn't matter in terms of doctrine anyway, at least so far, since Pope Francis has not attempted to make any infallible interpretations. Rather, Francis has spent his entire time as pope trying to undermine the moral arguments for adhering to past infallible interpretations, by using the tool of false "mercy."
Either way, his statements and actions should be actively and openly resisted by the Catholic bishops to a much greater extent than what has occurred so far, and the fact that this hasn't really occurred is a serious indictment of the moral cowardice of the world's current bishops.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:27 am to cajunangelle
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Pope rebukes climate deniers as 'perverse
Just another globalist shill mouthpiece.
Talk about an effective way to control the masses though!
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:40 am to Doc Fenton
Has the Pope been rebuked on any other matters you are aware of?
Pope Francis accused of heresy by dozens of churchmen
LINK
Pope Francis accused of heresy by dozens of churchmen
LINK
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:52 am to Pbhog
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Why is climate change political. The only ones that are making it political are the republicans. Everybody else in the world that isn’t on the oil companies pay roll knows climate change is a fact.
It’s political because of the economics. You have one extreme of alarmists saying that the world is going to end in ten years unless we overhaul everything and centralize a legal organization with transnational authority to monitor and punish violators.
On the other extreme you have people with their fingers in their ears saying, “It’s complete hokum!” (And due to a few unethical scientists, they have a small foothold)
Then you have a majority of the scientific community who agree that climate change is occurring and that anthropogenic emissions do play a role, but they debate over how much of an impact it has. To that end, it brings up another political debate about what level of self-imposed economic restrictions are acceptable to either completely stem or at least mitigate greenhouse gas releases.
Furthermore, the middle constantly gets labeled being part of the first extreme just because they admit that climate change is a thing, even if they feel it’s just a natural process (the 98% of scientists claim). Technically, I count as being a part of that 98% because some of my papers include something like “and concerns over climate change” in the introduction to justify why research was being performed, even though I’m of the opinion that the anthropogenic releases don’t justify the unfair regulations placed on industry.
Now if you’re really serious about lowering CO2 emissions we already have the “perfect atmospheric scrubbing technology,” trees. The problem is people like having land and raising cattle. So if you want to lower CO2 levels, you can force people to live in urban squalor or you can impose insane environmental regulations on companies, but either way it’s going to make some people unhappy.
Background: I have a Ph.D. in chemical engineering, multiple presentations at national and international conferences, multiple publications in peer reviewed journals, two current patent applications, and my dissertation was on Novel Solvents for CO2 Separation Applications
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:55 am to cajunangelle
Political Marxist with too strong of a social justice leaning. In other words a Jesuit.
Hopefully (and as a devout Catholic God forgive me) he is called home soon before he can do damage to the Church.
Hopefully (and as a devout Catholic God forgive me) he is called home soon before he can do damage to the Church.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:58 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Who looks to the Catholic church for science advice? Their record in that area is just a bit spotty.
You might want to check your facts. The number of scientific advancements by Catholics and Catholic clergy is huge. I mean huge.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:01 am to cajunangelle
What is perverse is the Pope. There is only mediator between God and man, and only one head of the Church. That is Jesus Christ.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:02 am to cajunangelle
He is right.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:08 am to cajunangelle
A pope hates science, NO WAY. He is also the globalist pawn.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:10 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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You might want to check your facts. The number of scientific advancements by Catholics and Catholic clergy is huge. I mean huge.
Didn't they put Galileo in jail? As I said, spotty.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:11 am to crewdepoo
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Offended by the pope. This is a whole new level of snowflake
You really don't understand the power of influence do you?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:12 am to cajunangelle
False Pope!
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:16 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Didn't they put Galileo in jail? As I said, spotty.
Not for a scientific dispute. The whole Galileo issue has been completely misrepresented over time.
Look into it.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:27 am to Homesick Tiger
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You really don't understand the power of influence do you?
Are you scared he’s going to influence ppl to believe in global warming? Cleaner energy? Oh noooooo!
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:30 am to cajunangelle
I'll say it....frick The Pope.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:36 am to cajunangelle
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Pope rebukes climate deniers as 'perverse'
Hold my beer
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