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re: Pornography is not conservative
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:44 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:44 pm to FooManChoo
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I mean that the Bible provides a framework by which reality is interpreted, from morality to science to politics. Not all the founders agreed on everything from the Bible, but the culture was Christianized due to the Biblical framework or worldview that permeated the West at that time. The founders viewed liberty and rights from this paradigm, which is the point of basing rights on being created by God.
You can kind of argue that their starting assumptions about the universe were themselves the products of or at least influenced by the christian centuries the preceded them, but none of them would have said that they had a “biblical worldview” and would have thought your phrasing of that was somewhere between disingenuous and repugnant.
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Not all principles are thought up by men.
Yes, they are. Literally every concept you’ve ever heard in your life, including your “biblical worldview” was thought up by men.
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You honestly think our founders were opposed to Christianity, and that they were so because of religious wars in Europe? You realize that from the war aspect alone, the founders believed in fighting and dying for their principles and beliefs, right?
I didn’t say that the founders were pacifists. I said that they weren’t religious and were skeptical or religion because of the centuries of persecution and bloodshed that had enveloped Western Europe since the reformation. The whole point of the enlightenment was to prioritize human reason to start from a naturalistic understanding of the world and then build from there. The idea being that it’s worth fighting and dying for real things but not for made up hooey
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:46 pm to anc
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Conservative porn.
Conservative porn.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:47 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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you said that Trump and Trumpism are specifically to blame for the muddled state of contemporary conservatives.
no i said his rejection of certain "conservative" planks (like the Evangelical social conservatism) muddled the definition of "conservative"
and, that's the only reason he pulled off the win
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Come on man, Don't buy into the cult. You cannot support Trump and diss this lady on moral grounds. Trumpites are closer to progressives than conservatives, when it comes to "morality" and hypocrisy.
So Merriam-Webster is a cult in your world?! WOW! In the normal world it is considered a fantastic dictionary and reference book.
I didn’t diss the “lady” at all. I said she was a sinner, a prostitute, and a pornographer. And on moral grounds this is sin. On moral grounds Trump is a sinner. On moral grounds I, you, all my friends and loved ones, and all your friends and loved ones are sinners too! And I “diss” none of us, but I do condemn all of OUR sins.
I judged the “lady” by your condemnation of Trump as depraved. By the standards of the vast majority of Americans she is a prostitute and pornographer. As such she is entitled to the depraved monicker but not your label of “lady”. Strange how you can defend the actions of the “lady” while condemning the lesser sins of Trump (they both engaged in extramarital sex, but only she publicly distributed it (pornography).
Cult? I’m judging Trump, Brandi, you, and me based upon common Christianity: hate the sin while loving the sinner. If you consider Christianity a cult, then your definition of cult is just as poor as your definition of depravity, lady, and morality.
Now, let’s examine hypocrisy.
You call Trump depraved when he is not. He is guilty of an unfortunately all too common sin. You call Brandi a lady, when common American moral values would deny prostitution and pornographers as being lady like. So, Trumps depraved, and Brandi is a lady? WOW! THAT’S SOME HYPOCRISY!
I’m politically conservative (classical liberal and Constitutionalist), very small federal, state, and local government, I am socially conservative, I am morally conservative, I’m religiously conservative, now my only possible progressive tendencies are in support of a large effective military. I agree with “speak softly (isolation leaning) but carry a big stick”. Unfortunately we live in a time that Pax Britannia no longer exists, but nuclear weapons do.
And it is undeniable that Trump governed more conservative than any president since Reagan, and arguably more conservative than Reagan. And it is also undeniable that America was better off at the end of his term post covid. And he was more right than wrong on covid while the DNC/MSM Political Complex was more wrong than right.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:50 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Turning Point certainly has every every right to decide who attends it’s conferences.
They have the right. I just think they made a dumb decision that makes them, and the Republican Party in general, look like tone deaf, gatekeeping, hypocritical morons.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:51 pm to MAADFACTS
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instincts to impregnate beautiful women
And this is where the family dysfunction comes in:
Most of the women people whack to aren't real. They are surgically, pixelated, and cosmetically enhanced. The minute you log out, you roll over to your continuously aging spouse and fantasize. You fantasize because she doesn't want it in her butt, or splashed on her face, or upside down on the edge of the bed, or with another couple, or while you watch, or with the babysitter.
And if she does like it kinky, you can't help but wonder about whether the guy at the community pool is getting the same treatment?
It's a never ending destructive cycle. So you start working out, piling up toys, for when the day comes that mama aint all that. You're now set to dump the wife and kids in a quest to satisfy your porn habit.
The failure in our black communities isn't economic, its based on twerking, hitting that, big booty, freakin', underage grooming, and all the things brought out by a pornographic society. So those natural instincts make us no better than the animals that eventually eat each other, without a dry rub, or a side salad.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:53 pm to lsufan31
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The conservatives in this day and age are all for big government legislating female reproductive rights,
I’m assuming your white knighting for Muh female reproductive rights includes not forcing women to take a vaccine that could affect their reproductive system, right?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:54 pm to lsufan31
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The conservatives in this day and age are all for big government legislating female reproductive rights, but not Gun control.
I'll surrender my right to gun ownership the day you surrender your right to vote. Your rights are no more special and precious than mine are
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:55 pm to kingbob
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They have the right. I just think they made a dumb decision that makes them, and the Republican Party in general, look like tone deaf, gatekeeping, hypocritical morons.
Even if its Conservative Inc., it's still a conservative convention that's also attended by easily impressionable minors.
It's not a convention for libertarians where Brandi Love would be welcomed.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:56 pm to MAADFACTS
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Literally every concept you’ve ever heard in your life, including your “biblical worldview” was thought up by men.
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The idea being that it’s worth fighting and dying for real things but not for made up hooey
There are no "real things", only opinions according to you. Are you saying your opinions are worth fighting for?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:58 pm to League Champs
The failure in our communities is based on government entitlement programs that are designed to trap people in dependency while encouraging single motherhood and illicit economic activity; and disincitivizing work, home/vehicle ownership, credit building, banking, and marriage.
Throw in a government that also traffics in addictive drugs and a media culture that promotes victimhood, promiscuity, violence, lawlessness, and hatred, and there you are.
Throw in a government that also traffics in addictive drugs and a media culture that promotes victimhood, promiscuity, violence, lawlessness, and hatred, and there you are.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:02 pm to Sentrius
Whenever someone brings up “the children” they’ve already lost the argument. Whether they be conservatives worried about kids finding out sex happens or liberals telling you someone else’s kids will starve if they don’t get your paycheck or that unborn kids will suffer from climate change. To all of them I say, I don’t think so and if I’m wrong, I don’t care. Raise your own kids, and I’ll raise mine
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:04 pm to Sentrius
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It's not a convention for libertarians where Brandi Love would be welcomed.
Economic libertarianism and combating toxic cancel culture are the right wing’s appeals to young folks. Good job cutting off your nose to spite your face.
The young folks who are interested in the GOP do so because they see the democrats as “fun police”, much like how 20 years ago the anti-war left saw evangelicals and neocons as the “fun police” worth rebelling against. Conservative organizations would be wise to embrace many libertarian concepts as they apply to the culture war in order to grow the future of the party.
Those within the party who oppose such things would not leave the party over it because they would understand that the left is trying to take away their rights to live their lifestyle, and while the GOP would be fighting for the rights of other lifestyles they don’t agree with, they would also be protecting their own, too.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:04 pm to MAADFACTS
You sound super smart.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Even this doesn't work b/c a major part of Trumpism that developed was seeking limits on groups allowing participants into their forums (Ex: Twitter).
Trumpism doesn't support THAT plank, either.
I could care less if Trumpism supports my premise of free association since I am not arguing in favor of (or against as far as that goes) Trumpism.
Once again, I’m saying that your declaration above that Trump’s often incoherent messaging is specific and unique to Trump and his supporters is utter and total B.S.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:08 pm to Flats
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There are no "real things", only opinions according to you. Are you saying your opinions are worth fighting for?
There are levels of abstractions, man. I’m willing to to die for the constitution and the rights guaranteed within. I’m not martyring myself for Allah, or Jesus, or any other imaginary friend in the sky. Are they all abstractions? Sure. But one is based on observing the world around us, and allegiance to our ancestors who lived in the relatively recent past, and the other is based on the myths of people telling stories 2,000 years ago. It’s make as much sense to die for the Marvel super heroes
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:09 pm to Sentrius
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It’s the same irrelevant brand of libertarianism
It’s libertinism pretending to be libertarianism.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:09 pm to League Champs
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And this is where the family dysfunction comes in:
Most of the women people whack to aren't real. They are surgically, pixelated, and cosmetically enhanced. The minute you log out, you roll over to your continuously aging spouse and fantasize. You fantasize because she doesn't want it in her butt, or splashed on her face, or upside down on the edge of the bed, or with another couple, or while you watch, or with the babysitter.
And if she does like it kinky, you can't help but wonder about whether the guy at the community pool is getting the same treatment?
It's a never ending destructive cycle. So you start working out, piling up toys, for when the day comes that mama aint all that. You're now set to dump the wife and kids in a quest to satisfy your porn habit.
The failure in our black communities isn't economic, its based on twerking, hitting that, big booty, freakin', underage grooming, and all the things brought out by a pornographic society. So those natural instincts make us no better than the animals that eventually eat each other, without a dry rub, or a side salad.
That’s a lot of words to say that dumb people who can’t distinguish reality from fantasy shouldn’t look at porn.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:10 pm to MAADFACTS
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But one is based on observing the world around us, and allegiance to our ancestors who lived in the relatively recent past, and the other is based on the myths of people telling stories 2,000 years ago.
Without a belief in a transcendent moral order, there is no Constitution. You’re living on a vestigial tail of morality engrained from Judeo-Christian tradition and you don’t even know it.
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