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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:11 pm to
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The platitudes in here are so simple it's almost insulting to anyone with real world experience, but this thread is too aged to get into that.


I agree. The Trumpfags should ditch the platitudes.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:12 pm to


Go on with your small brain rants I guess. I'm out.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:13 pm to
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I'm not dismissing it.


You will. It takes two more posts in the chain to dismiss it.

You have two to go. Now do a quick Google search.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:21 pm to
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US corporate bankruptcies in July reached their highest monthly volume since 2020.

Large public and private company bankruptcy filings increased to 71 in July from a revised 66 in June and the highest single-month tally since July 2020, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence data. Year-to-date bankruptcy filings totaled 446 through the end of July, the most for this seven-month period since 2010. The data includes companies with public debt and assets or liabilities of at least $2 million or private companies with assets or liabilities of at least $10 million at the time of filing.


S&PGlobal

There are several reports on it in the Google machine.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Its going to be an age of bigger corporations and fewer small businesses.


IOW, it’s the billionaires who benefit.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:25 pm to
You sound like a retarded leftist arguing for higher taxes.

That’s because tariffs are A TAX.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:25 pm to
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IOW, it’s the billionaires who benefit.


Sawe that in 2020 with Amazon crushing smaller businesses who were sidelined by government restrictions or bans.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:27 pm to
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You forgot raise the cost of doing business.

Have you seen the business bankruptcy numbers from July in the US?


The businesses I see folding have been on the ropes since COVID or were used to living on cheap credit. I would think it has more to do with 4 years of Biden more than 7 months of Trump. Time for the fed to decrease rates!!!

You know, that adds to the cost of doing business as well.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Sawe that in 2020 with Amazon crushing smaller businesses who were sidelined by government restrictions or bans.


If people could put 2 and 2 together, they'd see that all these statistics coming out have conditions like "worst since 2020." Isn't it odd that when the government starts interfering, small businesses get crushed?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:30 pm to
And this is good, right?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:30 pm to
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If people could put 2 and 2 together, they'd see that all these statistics coming out have conditions like "worst since 2020." Isn't it odd that when the government starts interfering, small businesses get crushed?



Voila!

Deeper pockets usually do get their way, and thats what will happen here.

Politicians addicted to billionaires keep pushing the billionaires' best interest while opportunity for the middle class wanes.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:31 pm to
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I would think it has more to do with 4 years of Biden more than 7 months of Trump.


Unbelievable. Right in front of your eyes and you can’t see it. Good for you, I guess.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:32 pm to
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And this is good, right?


Tourism is taking quite a hit this summer. Seems like we want stagflation to return, or something.

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:32 pm to
Yes thanks I'm digging into it now. Not sure what point you think that makes based on the trends but feel free to make it clearly here.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:35 pm to
No worries. Infer from it what you will but it is not a good trend. This country was built on small business and small businesses are bearing the brunt. They can’t just absorb the tariffs.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:36 pm to
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You are saying some tariffs will overcome 2 centuries of American ingenuity and I find your lack of faith in the market pretty pathetic. I get it you're an old and tired man, but there are Americans out there ready to fill the void wherever it may pop up. I promise you.


Ingenuity is one thing. Capital is another. Mom and Pop small businesses will have more challenges in this environment compared to the big boys in pretty much every way imaginable. There shouldn't be any denying that.

There are already reports of consumer spending shrinking. That will cause serious damage to the Mom & Pop businesses all over the country because they don't have super deep pockets to absorb the losses. God forbid that businesses cut their spending back. But that's probably coming down the line if margins are shrinking due to tariffs.

There will always be people wanting to break away from corporate America and do their own thing. I love that. We did it ourselves. But there is serious risk involved in that and if the economy does really start to experience problems you're gonna have fewer people willing to take that chance and expose themselves to the danger of not having a steady paycheck and insurance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:39 pm to
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This country was built on small business and small businesses are bearing the brunt. They can’t just absorb the tariffs.


We used to really encourage entrepreneurship in this country. Now everyone just wants a cushy corporate gig. I consider it a personal failure that I didnt explore a couple of opportunities earlier in life.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69854 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:40 pm to
Let me spell out why your absolute steadfast opinion based on one snippet doesn't work. Correct anything below by answering:

What is the bankruptcy rate?
How many were fricked before the tariffs?
How many filed without any tariff impact whatsoever (hint this one will be yuge)
How many were small? Medium? Large?

I can ask many more if you'd like or if by some miracle you immediately know the answer to any of these important variables apropos your snippet cherry stat.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22560 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:44 pm to
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This country was built on small business and small businesses are bearing the brunt. They can’t just absorb the tariffs.


This is why MAGA zealots and leftists are two sides of the same coin. "If they can't afford to __ they don't deserve to be in business" is there motto. The former fills in the blank with "buy American," the latter does it with "pay a living wage"
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:47 pm to
The sizes of the businesses is right in the article.

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The data includes companies with public debt and assets or liabilities of at least $2 million or private companies with assets or liabilities of at least $10 million at the time of filing.


They would fall into small to medium size businesses. Just the ones we should all want to survive.

Of course you are going to do what you can to rip the report apart. About what I expected.

I’m sure some of these businesses were already in trouble but current policies certainly didn’t help their position.

And thank you for treating this as a discussion and not doing the degenerate ridiculing and name calling that many on this board descend into.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 4:50 pm
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