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Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:19 pm to partyboy1930
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In criminal cases, there is no “dismissal without prejudice.” That’s a civil term. In criminal cases, a dismissal is final
Partyboy, I mostly post here to get information.
Despite what I have shared with you, are you sticking with your statement?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:21 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:49 pm to boosiebadazz
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The subject of the memo literally begins “dismissal without prejudice”
Lol, Boosie. I don't often agree with you politically, but this is just a straight up case of facts and law.
It is amusing to see people downvote you for just stating the facts.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:52 pm to partyboy1930
I see dismiss without prejudice from time to time in federal criminal court
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:59 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:12 pm to Decatur
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Now you’re just inventing shite. Have fun man.
Your lack of self awareness is staggering. Clearly you’ve never been a criminal attorney.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:36 pm to SCLibertarian
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I don't buy that Sassoon is solely upset that the "rule of law" isn't being followed. She's upset she won't get to be the prosecutor who convicted a NYC mayor and sent him to prison for the first time in history. This is a career case and now it's gone.
This is exactly why she's pissed
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:35 pm to GerasimosNina
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this is a disgusting move by Bove and Bondi should have intervened to allow the prosecution to proceed.
Bove ripped SDNY a new one in his letter of acceptance of her resignation
He called her out for weaponization and trying to make a name for herself by attempting to interfere with the governance and re-election of Adams. Bove also went scorched earth on her for evoking Scalia and Robert Jackson by citing specific words from both where they denounced weaponization and endorsed the DOJ removing a case when that happens
It looks like she got seduced by the Biden DOJ, and was going to finish taking down Adams because he turned on the DIMs
Posted on 2/14/25 at 5:25 am to This GUN for HIRE
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I don't buy that Sassoon is solely upset that the "rule of law" isn't being followed. She's upset she won't get to be the prosecutor who convicted a NYC mayor and sent him to prison for the first time in history. This is a career case and now it's gone.
This is exactly why she's pissed
Bingo. To think a person who aspires to be a fed prosecutor in NYC, is as pure as the driven snow, is sadly mistaken.
To have pursued this "russia gate" set up just proves that fact.
If she had argued to dismiss I would have thought it noble, to publicly try and shame your boss because you could get a scalp, well Scalia obviously did not teach her much.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:18 am to trinidadtiger
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If she had argued to dismiss I would have thought it noble, to publicly try and shame your boss because you could get a scalp, well Scalia obviously did not teach her much.
I had the pleasure of taking a law school class from Scalia when he was a judge on the DC Circuit. It's unsettling to see someone invoke his name to push "pish posh" (his term for nonsense).
None of us know what prosecutor Sassoon's motives were in resigning. Her legal reasoning in declining to move to dismiss the case WITHOUT PREJUDICE (meaning DOJ could still bring charges against Adams), however, is impeccable.
Once a federal criminal complaint has been filed, Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 48 requires leave of court to dismiss a case. I doubt a judge would grant such a dismissal.
I couldn't be more happy with President Trump. I am particularly pleased with what Emil Bove is doing re J6 prosecutors.
I have read all I could about this case. Nowhere have I found a legal explanation for seeking dismissal of the case against Mayor Adams WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
If the case against Adams were bogus and politically motivated, why not move to dismiss WITH PREJUDICE? What is going to change in the future to justify DOJ retaining the option to prosecute Adams on the same charges?
The ONLY logical explanation for retaining the option to prosecute Adams is to retain political leverage over him.
I genuinely believe that one of the best aspects of Trump's Golden Age of America is no tolerance for gaslighting. It is gaslighting in the extreme to claim that the prosecution of Adams is improper AND to still retain the option of prosecuting him on the same charges.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:23 am to boosiebadazz
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Clerked for Scalia
All this means is they are talented. Doesn't mean that they are clone!
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:31 am to jrobic4
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All this means is they are talented. Doesn't mean that they are clone!
It also makes it extremely unlikely that Sassoon is some liberal sky screamer bent on opposing Trump.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:36 am to IvoryBillMatt
Did you read the initial memo on the dismissal?
Literally said we don’t care about the evidence, dismiss it because Damian Williams made a website and the pending charge is making it difficult for Adams to get a security clearance. As if Trump can’t clear him into whatever security clearance he needs with the stroke of a pen. In the rebuttal letter, Emil also criticizes the one-sided nature of a grand jury
It’s almost like it was ghost-written by Alex Spiro himself.
Literally said we don’t care about the evidence, dismiss it because Damian Williams made a website and the pending charge is making it difficult for Adams to get a security clearance. As if Trump can’t clear him into whatever security clearance he needs with the stroke of a pen. In the rebuttal letter, Emil also criticizes the one-sided nature of a grand jury
It’s almost like it was ghost-written by Alex Spiro himself.
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:37 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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The fact that she released her letter tells me Bondi was right.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but with how busy Bondi is (doing a great job in my opinion), I'm guessing she didn't know that Bove had ordered Sassoon to move to dismiss the Adams case WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:37 am to boosiebadazz
Yup. He admitted he didn't even look at the evidence. They didn't care about the evidence or case. A political deal was made and thats all they care about
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:47 am to RobbBobb
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It looks like she got seduced by the Biden DOJ, and was going to finish taking down Adams because he turned on the DIMs
I’m pretty sure she was appointed to this position by Trump.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:49 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
It's funny how the Lib/Progs are trumpting her Scalia bona fides in screaming about this.
Apparently, there is a limit to prosecutorial discretion.
Apparently, there is a limit to prosecutorial discretion.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:51 am to boosiebadazz
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Did you read the initial memo on the dismissal?
I did, and mostly agree with your assessment.
As a supporter of Trump, I am really disappointed to see the Administration clearly use DOJ for political purposes. It takes the sting out of what I think were completely justified arguments about the outrageous weaponization of DOJ under Biden.
I would much rather have seen Trump go the pardon route, which is an absolute power of the president and doesn't require legal justification.
POLITICALLY, I am excited about having Adams more on our side and enforcing immigration laws. Why pretend this is anything but to achieve a political goal?
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