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re: Putting Rittenhouse on the stand wasn’t a good idea
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:26 pm to the808bass
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:26 pm to the808bass
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You’re mad that Kyle killed part of your street shock troops. An army made up of human flotsam and jetsam. People like your children would’ve been if you had ever reproduced.
You are very strange.
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:27 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Putting Rittenhouse on the stand wasn’t a good idea
You're wrong. He has established self-defense.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:30 pm to Eli Goldfinger
As a woman, if I were on that jury, and after listening to Kyle, I would vote to acquit.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:35 pm to LSUROXS
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You're wrong. He has established self-defense.
Self defense was already established by the states’ own star witness. The defense had nothing to gain by putting him on the stand and everything to lose. Luckily, Kyle was a solid witness for himself and the prosecutor is an idiot.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:37 pm to TBoy
quote:what are some lies "right wingers" are telling about other people today?
What thrill do you get lying about other people? Right wingers do that all day, so I guess there must be some minimum quota.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:53 pm to TBoy
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You’re mad that Kyle killed part of your street shock troops.
Tboy grew up in a gated community and doesn’t actually know black people. He may know some “bad” white people though
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:54 pm to jchamil
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I'm pretty sure in Wisconsin, the burden is on the State to disprove self-defense
Correct
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:04 pm to jchamil
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I'm pretty sure in Wisconsin, the burden is on the State to disprove self-defense
Not the traditional self defense. Defendant has a burden. The presumption of self-defense is underthe Castle doctrine. That doesn’t apply to public spaces. The presumption is Only when the incident occurs in a home vehicle or a persons business. This was in a public space. The burden shift doesn’t apply here. He has to prove self-defense.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:05 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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urden of proof lies upon the State to make the case,
This is a gun case during BLM protests, to most of America this kid is guilty unless proven innocent.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:06 pm to TBoy
he made that prosecutor look like a fool. even twitter libs are melting
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:07 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I would not have. He looks like a defenseless kid on the side, but significantly tougher on the stand.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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Kyle is crushing this idiot.
He did well but he wasn't helped by his pitiful defense team at all.
They should have objected with "Asked and Answered" at least 250 times.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:38 pm to Loserman
I’m surprised a motion in lining was not filed regarding the drivers license
Absolutely no relevance to the case and improper impeachment
Absolutely no relevance to the case and improper impeachment
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:45 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It wasn’t, but it worked. I wouldn’t have taken that gamble, but he did a damn good job.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:48 pm to oilattorney4lsu
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he needed to ultimately testify that he believed he was in imminent danger. He needed to establish fear of harm. Would be hard to do without his testimony since Rosenbaum was not in possession of a weapon.
This - he should have been required to testify if his only defense is 'self defense.'
Supposedly, that makes it more difficult for the state to prove intent, because they have the onus to disprove self defense. If the defendant refuses to testify that could look bad for a 'self defense' tactic.
But = I am always on the side of wanting the defendant to testify - especially in murder cases.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:56 pm to ChineseBandit58
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But = I am always on the side of wanting the defendant to testify - especially in murder cases.
And that's the most prevalent thought amongst most other people as well, prospective jurors included, despite their answers during voir dire that they wouldn't hold it against the defendant. If you can, you do. But the reality is that the vast majority of cases brought to trial are not done so because the defendant is absolutely, credibly pronouncing innocence, but rather because they've got such a bad track record that the plea offer being so unfavorable that they may as well take it to trial. Those types certainly aren't the ones you want to call to the witness stand.
In this instance, knowing what we now know about Rittenhouse's personality, composure and confidence, plus simply the fact that he's not guilty of the severe offenses (my opinion) - it would have been malpractice to not provide advice to the client in this particular situation that he should testify.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 7:21 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I bet those lib prosecutors couldn't wait to get ahold of that 18 yo boy. F them to hell.
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