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re: Question for Dems re: Russia
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:48 pm to atlgamecockman
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:48 pm to atlgamecockman
quote:Is that why you know it?
and everyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows it.
Was Russian help illegally accepted? That is the question that I'd like to get an answer on.
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:49 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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How is this any different than getting a dossier from a foreign entity
They didn't get it from a foreign entity, they got it from a US law firm.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:49 pm to BamaAtl
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Trump knowingly conspired with a foreign government for the express purpose of winning a federal election, in the form of accepting something of value from them.
And in your mind this is different from the Clinton-funded dossier?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:49 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Fusion GPS is a domestic firm that subcontracted out the intelligence gathering and didn't reveal their source to the Clinton campaign as far as I can tell. So it's different in that way.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:51 pm to BamaAtl
quote:What "something of value" did he receive?
Trump knowingly conspired with a foreign government for the express purpose of winning a federal election, in the form of accepting something of value from them.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:51 pm to LSURussian
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Was Russian help illegally accepted?
According to Trump, it was.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:52 pm to LSURussian
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Was Russian help illegally accepted?
Well they took the meeting didn't they? This is such a dumb argument. You might have unloaded two magazines at a person and missed all the shots. Sure you won't get charged for murder, but they'll catch you for attempted.
Soliciting the information is a crime. Doesn't matter if they got anything useful or not.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:53 pm to BamaAtl
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Trump knowingly conspired with a foreign government for the express purpose of winning a federal election, in the form of accepting something of value from them.
This is where you lose me. What did he actually accept or intend to accept? It seems to be pretty clear that nothing ever came from these discussions or offer.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:53 pm to BamaAtl
Who got it from a foreign entity.
So at the very least you agree that the people Hillary and the DNC hired colluded with foreigners for the express purpose of winning a federal election, right?
BTW, Natalia Veselnitskaya, is a Russian lawyer. How is that any different than contracting a former British Intel agent with ties to Russia?
Either they're both crimes or neither is. You can't have it both ways.
So at the very least you agree that the people Hillary and the DNC hired colluded with foreigners for the express purpose of winning a federal election, right?
BTW, Natalia Veselnitskaya, is a Russian lawyer. How is that any different than contracting a former British Intel agent with ties to Russia?
Either they're both crimes or neither is. You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:56 pm to SquatchDawg
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What did he actually accept or intend to accept?
Damaging information on Clinton - we don't know yet what exactly he was told the Russian government had on her or how he intended to use it, but we do know that he was told the had something and he did intend to use it.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:56 pm to atlgamecockman
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Fusion GPS is a domestic firm that subcontracted out the intelligence gathering and didn't reveal their source to the Clinton campaign as far as I can tell. So it's different in that way.
So I can hire someone to commit a murder for me by this reasoning
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:57 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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So at the very least you agree that the people Hillary and the DNC hired colluded with foreigners for the express purpose of winning a federal election, right?
Of course that's not what happened.
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How is that any different than contracting a former British Intel agent with ties to Russia?
Natalia was working directly for the Russian government - the British former agent was mining public data and his own sources, who happened to be Russian.
You can try to pretend that they're the same all you like, but ask yourself why there's no special counsel investigating Clinton's campaign, yet Trump's has been fricked with multiple indictments, guilty pleas, and more to come.
Stop living in a fantasy world.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:57 pm to Strannix
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So I can hire someone to commit a murder for me by this reasoning
Only if you are a Clinton.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:58 pm to atlgamecockman
quote:No, it actually isn't. When you and Tweedle Dumber keep repeating false statements about illegally receiving help from a foreign government yet you can't describe a single example of any help being received you just look desperate. And stupid.
Well they took the meeting didn't they? This is such a dumb argument.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:59 pm to BamaAtl
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Damaging information on Clinton
So the same thing Hillary and the DNC got on Trump, damaging information from a foreign entity.
The only difference seems to be that the information on Trump was fabricated and used illegally to get a FISA warrant.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:59 pm to LSURussian
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false statements about illegally receiving help from a foreign government
Are they false when Trump openly admits that this is what happened?
Oh, they're not?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:01 pm to LSURussian
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yet you can't describe a single example of any help being received you just look desperate. And stupid.
You're missing the point bud. The fact that Jr. took that meeting with Kushner and everyone else because they thought they were getting dirt on Hillary and were going to use it is evidence enough. It does not matter if they got help, they sought it out.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:01 pm to atlgamecockman
quote:Do yourself a favor. Cite the legal statute such a meeting violates. Wear yourself out. You'll learn something in the process.quote:Well they took the meeting, didn't they?
Was Russian help illegally accepted?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:01 pm to BamaAtl
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Are they false when Trump openly admits that this is what happened?
Oh, they're not?
Quote the statute or STFU
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:01 pm to SquatchDawg
Here's another question for the Dims. If Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 GE why would his intel baws help manufacture the Steele dossier to assist the DNC and Hilldawg? This dossier was the silver bullet that was going to bring Trump's presidency down.
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