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Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:47 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Antifa and their ilk are soft little babies compared to some of those groups around then.
That may be true, but the important element is that the push back against such actions have become the realm of the new pussy.
We are letting them walk all over us and the police seem to be, either indifferent, or on their side.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:53 pm to EA6B
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The Weather Underground, The SDS(students for a democratic society), Black Panthers, etc. had no qualms about bombing a building to send a message. Also compared to today, they were all anti-government oppression and any limits on freedom speech, they would never have believed that one day something like "hate speecH" would exist.
Well, many of the harder elements were real deal communists, so not sure about “anti-government suppression”, but the environment and attitude was very different.
Some of those groups were full of people who had known real hardship, and many weren’t afraid of prison or violence. FALN and guys like Willie Morales are a good example.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:54 pm to anc
It was actually about the same to some degree .... we had Black Panthers and Weather Underground and the Symbionese Liberation Army.
We had assclowns spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam and calling them baby killers.
We had Kent State.
But we had many more peaceful protests.
What I remember most, I guess because it was close was what is commonly referred-to around here as the Orangeburg Massacre. Happened at SC State. I remember it well because my psychology professor at the time had been there when it went down and he told us all about it in class.
I mean we still had Hollywood assclowns protesting and talking shite, most notably Hanoi Jane Fonda ... but things were more balanced. We had John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart and Maureen O’Hara, et al, countering the left wing assclowns.
There were protests at every university but it was a mixed bag. Anarchists. Racial stuff. Anti-Vietnam. Anti Johnson and Nixon. George Wallace. Civil Rights workers disappearing.
The 60s were a fricking shite show.
About like it is now but the difference is in how the media covered everything. And there wasn’t a 24/7/365 news cycle.
We had assclowns spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam and calling them baby killers.
We had Kent State.
But we had many more peaceful protests.
What I remember most, I guess because it was close was what is commonly referred-to around here as the Orangeburg Massacre. Happened at SC State. I remember it well because my psychology professor at the time had been there when it went down and he told us all about it in class.
I mean we still had Hollywood assclowns protesting and talking shite, most notably Hanoi Jane Fonda ... but things were more balanced. We had John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart and Maureen O’Hara, et al, countering the left wing assclowns.
There were protests at every university but it was a mixed bag. Anarchists. Racial stuff. Anti-Vietnam. Anti Johnson and Nixon. George Wallace. Civil Rights workers disappearing.
The 60s were a fricking shite show.
About like it is now but the difference is in how the media covered everything. And there wasn’t a 24/7/365 news cycle.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:00 pm to Dale51
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We are letting them walk all over us and the police seem to be, either indifferent, or on their side.
I actually disagree with that. shite like what CPD did to the protestors in 1968 and the general police approach to the Black Panthers and things like COINTELPRO gave huge amounts of fuel to that fire and made those groups much more potent than they would’ve otherwise been. Police are smartly doing everything they can to avoid viral moments.
Just letting them piss and moan and letting all of America see how big of dumbasses they are seems to be working. BLM seems to have petered out, and the vast majority of the country sees Antifa and their ilk as a joke. The women’s march has fallen apart. These people eat their own if you just let them.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:01 pm to anc
Out of all the protesters, there were maybe 15-20 die hards at any given rally.
Anyone there will tell you they went to get stoned and frick, if they’re being honest.
Anyone there will tell you they went to get stoned and frick, if they’re being honest.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:02 pm to anc
Antifa might as well be Romper Room in Mister Rogers Neighborhood.
60s were SERIOUS and no hiding behind a mask
60s were SERIOUS and no hiding behind a mask
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:18 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Police are smartly doing everything they can to avoid viral moments.
Actually, they seem to be be avoiding anything to protect the rights of the average person from being damaged by these brainwashed fools, imo.
How is this a good thing?
Avoiding "viral moments"? So what.. they're avoiding any moments to enforce the law.
They are creating viral moments that emboldens these dangerous and mentally ill sociopaths.
Why do you suppose that is??
Why is that?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:24 pm to CajunTiger92
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We had three major political figures, one a POTUS, assassinated within a 5 year period.
A POTUS which needed killin' because he was a communist. - Willie O'Keefe
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:25 pm to anc
This difference btwn now and then is, no one want to see the progs of today burning any bras.
Woof
Woof
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:55 pm to Traveler
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The Kent State protest shootings was a defining moment for protests during that period.
You don't throw bricks at soldiers with guns.
The Black panthers found out violence doesn't pay when there is a Republican in the White House.
Some of the most violent, just like now hated America.
I think it was Eldridge Cleaver, who left and went to Cuba. He left Cuba and went to Europe. After about five years abroad he was so desperate to come back to America that he was willing to come home and do his prison.
The MSM was tainted back then as well.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:49 pm to anc
This thread captured my attention since a friend and I recently had a conversation
about how the national perception has changed since our salad days in the 60’s,
especially since the advent of social media.
This is a topic worthy of a study whose tentacles could spread undirected forever.
To stay on point regarding protests I can say the authorities response was markedly
different than the attitude that permeates present society. In those times the issues
centered around Nam,civil rights and free speech. When push came to shove,
the response was usually physical with national guardsmen called as a matter of last resort to quell unrest. The Kent State massacre was the epitome of the all gloves off mentality which ruled the day. The burning of Newark and Detroit in the late 60’s also
triggered a forceful action in the wake of civil unrest.
about how the national perception has changed since our salad days in the 60’s,
especially since the advent of social media.
This is a topic worthy of a study whose tentacles could spread undirected forever.
To stay on point regarding protests I can say the authorities response was markedly
different than the attitude that permeates present society. In those times the issues
centered around Nam,civil rights and free speech. When push came to shove,
the response was usually physical with national guardsmen called as a matter of last resort to quell unrest. The Kent State massacre was the epitome of the all gloves off mentality which ruled the day. The burning of Newark and Detroit in the late 60’s also
triggered a forceful action in the wake of civil unrest.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:05 pm to anc
The 60s laugh at today’s internet warriors and “marches” trust me.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:15 pm to Dale51
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Avoiding "viral moments"? So what.. they're avoiding any moments to enforce the law.
They are creating viral moments that emboldens these dangerous and mentally ill sociopaths.
Why do you suppose that is??
Why is that?
Their goal is for society to come apart at the seams and eat it's own in a cultural version of Lord of the Flies. By mid century this will be a balkanized conglomeration of countries resembling a Mad Max scenario.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:51 am to Traveler
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And this was done without social media. Can you imagine what they could have done with that?
Social media, is the very thing that would get you busted.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 5:04 am to Good Times
In all seriousness though,at the 1968 DNC in Chicago,while they were having the Convention,Police were beating the crap out of protesters outside.
I was 7,but I remember.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:25 am to anc
quote:Abbie Hoffman
Were those protesters pussies like the ones we have today?
"Hoffman co-founded the Youth International Party ("Yippies") in 1968 to protest the Vietnam War and the American economic and political system. A master of the publicity stunt, he gained national attention in 1969 by interrupting The Who's performance at Woodstock to protest a fellow activist's arrest and incarceration. "I think this is a pile of shite! While John Sinclair rots in prison ...," he screamed, high on LSD, after grabbing the microphone from a shocked Pete Townsend. The following year, he was convicted for crossing state lines to disrupt the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, though the conviction was later overturned. In 1971 he made headlines again with his best seller Steal This Book. After being arrested in New York City for trying to sell $36,000 worth of cocaine, Hoffman jumped bail in 1974 and vanished. (He made for a flamboyant fugitive, personally reporting his disappearance to police.) Seven years later, he resurfaced in upstate New York with an entirely new name (Barry Freed) and an entirely new face (thanks to plastic surgery). He served one year in prison and later worked as an environmental activist until his death in 1989."
Although I really didn't like the guy while he was upsetting the American Apple Cart, to this day there's a part of him that always appealed to me.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 6:34 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:44 am to tidalmouse
Cops didn't play back then. The line was drawn very starkly between the Hippie protestors and the old school police force. It was understood back then that you were going to very well get pummeled by the police if things got out of hand. Different time.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:47 am to anc
A significant portion of the males in the nonviolent protests were there due to the percentage of females there. Didn’t have anything to do with politics.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:48 am to Gray Tiger
quote:This.
Those protests were way more violent. The cops had no problem wading into the protest swinging their night sticks.
Today both sides are pretty tame. Antifa are children. They are too soft.
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