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Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:25 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:25 am to
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I'm an independent


Who did you vote for in the primary last election?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20067 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:25 am to
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Happiest MFer you ever met...


If this is true you haven’t a “rational” bone in your body and a troll.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:25 am to
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Lol no they won’t


If vote counting stops in all "swing states" in the middle of the night, and all swing states get a magical bump that pushes Desantis over Biden, and if the Desantis camp makes up stories about "pipe bursts" that turn out to be 1 clogged toilet for the justification to stop the vote count, and if the Democrats win nearly every race but the Presidency...then sure. But you know those kind of coincidences have only ever favored Democrats.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:25 am to
No you wouldn't.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86737 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:26 am to
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Exactly. And we weren't at rallys and we didn't buy Biden gear. We just showed up to vote to get Trump out of office.



Well done

*gestures at everything*
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20067 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:28 am to
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I'm an independent and would be happy to vote for a Republican if I believed in him or her.


So you voted for Biden…..and you believe in his vision of the country….see where that has lead us?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32033 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:34 am to
Here is a rational take from somebody who voted for him and thinks there are shenanigans but doesn’t scream “stolen election.”

Trump increased his votes. Not by any small margin. Increased all voting margins across every demographic except white men and women. That matters because there are a lot of white men and women in America. I’ll come back to that.

Election night, there were several irregularities that were eyebrow raising in a few states. Arizona was expected to go Trump and was immediately called for Biden after the polls close. That’s an abnormality. Calling CA for Biden after polls close isn’t a red flag, just like calling WV for Trump. It was just a “that’s weird.”

Then Trump has very large leads in MI, PA, and GA. If you’re watching live like most of us were, you were bewildered that they all just stopped counting in the middle of the night and said “we won’t have a winner tonight.” I’ve been following elections for 25 years and stayed up for every one of them and outside of Florida 2000, never seen that before. The second that happened, I knew that meant Biden was about to soar straight up in all 3 states as soon as counting started again.

I am not saying that I think somebody was stuffing a ballot box at that moment. While I sure it happens on the left and the right, I don’t think there were 1000s of people filling out ballots in a dark room and then coming and delivering them in the dead of night.

What I do “think” (this is just my analysis based on the mail ins that were sent out, the vote tallying happening in real time, and what we learned after) happened is that Democrats understood that their ground game in urban areas is so easily superior to anything that republicans can do in rural or suburban areas. If people already have a ballot mailed to them whether they requested it or not, we can cover an apartment building that we know is heavily democrat and collect 200 votes before the republicans even can get their shoes on to go out and do the same in the ‘burbs.

Canvassers can show up and ask “have you filled out your ballot? If not you can fill it out and we’ll deliver it for you.” to the politically uninitiated. Now those people were extremely targeted based on demographics, previous voting records, etc.

Now if every dump of ballots from certain locations are 100% for Biden, that will be suspicious. Trump still got 10% of the vote in LA, NYC, and SF so a Dropbox location being 100% would be sus AF. I am guessing but not stating that people that ballot harvested did not turn in every ballot they received.

I posit that while increasing his lead across the board, Trump losing the aforementioned white vote made things closer than they should have been. When it was seen that the margins were close enough that the rest of those ballots could turn the tide, the ballot harvesters had to get them postmarked to become legitimate. That’s why there was a pause and then bunch of discussions about what day mail was postmarked. There’s simply no reason for anybody to argue mail in ballots shouldn’t be mailed before the Election Day.


I think that if you limit voting to in person voting, no souls to the polls, no mail in ballots, no early voting, etc. Just people who are political initiated and show up to vote themselves… Trump wins by 10mm+ votes.

Every person in America votes and has the time to do it mail in, early, federal election holiday, etc. Biden wins by 20-30 million.

I’m sure that’s enough to piss everybody off.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:38 am
Posted by sofladawg
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Sep 2014
74 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:34 am to
Don't you wish he were still President?


Hell no.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87424 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:39 am to
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Hell no.


How's the Turnip working out Chump?
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:42 am to
Are you legit retarded?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9166 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:44 am to
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Don't you wish he were still President?


Hell no.


I'm an independent as well. What policy decisions did you disagree with Trump on?
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:44 am to
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I'm an independent


ok groomer
Posted by sofladawg
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Sep 2014
74 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:46 am to
Anyone who couldn't see inflation coming had their head buried up their arse. We pumped trillions into the economy during the pandemic and now are dealing with high gas due to the war in Ukraine. Sucks for the average American who has to fill the tank and is living check to check.

Thankfully, I'm not living check to check. Worked my arse of all my career to be financially stable. Wife and I are fully employed and we are taking advantage of the discounted Stock Market. All of you should be buying right now if you can afford to. Market goes up and down, but over time it only goes up. Check in a few years from now and see where your 401K is. Great buying opportunity right now!

My life does not change one bit by who the current President is.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:47 am to
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Our vote counts


If that were true today it would be illegal.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87424 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:48 am to
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We pumped trillions into the economy during the pandemic
70% of money in circulation was in the last two years.

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high gas due to the war in Ukraine


This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:49 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156604 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:48 am to
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Wife


What’s his name?
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:53 am to
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Our elections are sacred. Its what separates us from other countries in the World. Our vote counts

The first thing you need to do to help you understand is take off the rose-tinted goggles you are wearing.
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Trumps behavior in my eyes is 100% Un-American and goes against everything we stand for as a country.

Exploring every legal avenue possible is 100% American as apple pie. Trump is the result of the bureaucratic machine in Washington placing it's own interests above those of the American people. If you think Trump is the problem or is the real danger to our republic, then you need to do some research my friend. The fact you called it our democracy supports this conclusion.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6143 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:55 am to
I am genuinely asking, please give specific examples as to the policies that Trump put in place that you so vehemently disagreed with and what policies Biden touted in his campaign that made you think he had the best plan for the future.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24260 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:55 am to
Ask for rational discussion

Premise conversation with lie.

Exhibit A why rational discussions with leftists are impossible
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:56 am to
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these basic facts


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Trump got his arse handed to him in the election.


I stopped here.
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