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re: Read Derek Chauvin’s New Petition … And Weep For American Justice
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:58 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:58 am to Vacherie Saint
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We are all about evidence, friend. He had enough Fent in his system to kill five people. He never stopped breathing because he never stfu the entire time he was restrained.
He may have died of an overdose but I can't believe the state because they have proven to be untrustworthy. I know a grown man was sitting on his neck and refused to get up. Take the badges and crowd and all that away. If a man refuses to get off another man's neck while he's dying and saying he can't breathe then that man is a piece of shite on a power trip. Any decent person gets off his neck. Cops are rarely decent.
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:02 am to Big Scrub TX
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And yet still no pardon from Trump.
You think Trump has the power to pardon state court convictions?
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 10:17 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:05 am to Schleynole
I have the same take. criminals gives a cop a bad time. Chauvin was tired of Floyd's bullshite act... except this one time, it appeared the criminal was really having issues.
if Chauvin had the self awareness to stop, get off him, give him first aid and call the medics, Chauvin wouldnt be in jail right now. would still be fired, yes, but no jail time
this is his own fault.
if Chauvin had the self awareness to stop, get off him, give him first aid and call the medics, Chauvin wouldnt be in jail right now. would still be fired, yes, but no jail time
this is his own fault.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:12 am to Schleynole
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I can't believe the state because they have proven to be untrustworthy.
The "State" perjured itself in testimony when it denied the restraint technique was part of its officer training.
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I know a grown man was sitting on his neck and refused to get up.
Lower neck and upper shoulder area, but yes. He's a police officer using techniques learned in his training to restrain a very large human who is heavily drugged and resisting arrest.... a man with a know violent history. Had Floyd stopped violently resisting and complied with police, he would have been taken to the hospital and likely been saved from his own undoing.
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Take the badges and crowd and all that away. If a man refuses to get off another man's neck while he's dying and saying he can't breathe then that man is a piece of shite on a power trip.
It doesn't work that way. The badge matters. Its the police's job to do these things - not yours.
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Any decent person gets off his neck. Cops are rarely decent.
This is silly. Floyd was the size of an NFL Linebacker, was high, and was actively fighting multiple officers. The restraint technique used was keeping him immobilized until the officers could safely get him cuffed and into the police car. His complaints about breathing are easily dismissed as he continues to argue and resist the entire time. If you cant breath, you cant speak and you sure AF cant fight a cop.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:16 am to Schleynole
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Take the badges and crowd and all that away. If a man refuses to get off another man's neck while he's dying and saying he can't breathe then that man is a piece of shite on a power trip.
What you say was not the case. He was the senior officer called to assist in the arrest of a very large suspect resisting arrest. Chauvin was trained to restrain a suspect in the exact method he used.
Take off your emo-blinders and admit to yourself Chauvin was nothing more than a scapegoat. And now an innocent man is in prison. Chauvin was employed as a tool by the dim-commies to help them elect a brain dead idiot to the highest office in the land.
And you fell for it.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:18 am to djmed
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Because no judge wants to take on the extraordinary burden of potentially lighting the fuse that ignites a new season of coast-to-coast riots in the name of “attack(ing) some of the core beliefs and structures of cisheteropatriarchal racial capitalist society.”
Nothing would make me happier than to see that fuse lit right now.
We're coming to physical war anyway, eventually. The Left is emboldened and participating in complete liberal lunacy and violence. The Right is barely restrained. I say we get it over with. Rather just destroy it all now and either fall apart or start over, than death by 10 million cuts and no possibility of renewal.
I'll add that NO ONE really wants a modern American civil war no matter how much they think they do. But we're coming to it anyway. Violence and bloodshed, likely regionalized. Lots of terroristic tactics and guerilla warfare. Martial Law. Checkpoints, draconian curfews, mandatory rationing, suspension of habeus corpus, the whole nine yards. Let's just do it.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:36 am to Vacherie Saint
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doesn't work that way. The badge matters. Its the police's job to do these things - not yours.
They should be held to a higher standard, not a lower standard. They're number 1 job should be to keep the citizen alive
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:39 am to Schleynole
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He may have died of an overdose but I can't believe the state because they have proven to be untrustworthy.
It’s the state that prosecuted him.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:51 am to Schleynole
Thanks for sharing your opinion, but life doesn't work that way. A doctor or paramedic may have that responsibility (Hippocratic Oath), but even then not at the risk of their own personal safety.
A police officers job is to enforce the law. A police officers job is NOT to try and guess, in an instant, how lethally drugged a giant, irate, violent criminal might be - then willfully put his or herself (or the public) at grave harm by refusing to follow officer training and protocols that may cause harm to a suspect. Similarly, if a suspect is injured while assaulting or fleeing an officer, the cop isn't charged with battery. That's ridiculous.
You are being emotional about this and emotions don't drive standards and policy for a reason. Emotions are what got this officer tossed in jail for "killing" a guy who wasn't even murdered.
A police officers job is to enforce the law. A police officers job is NOT to try and guess, in an instant, how lethally drugged a giant, irate, violent criminal might be - then willfully put his or herself (or the public) at grave harm by refusing to follow officer training and protocols that may cause harm to a suspect. Similarly, if a suspect is injured while assaulting or fleeing an officer, the cop isn't charged with battery. That's ridiculous.
You are being emotional about this and emotions don't drive standards and policy for a reason. Emotions are what got this officer tossed in jail for "killing" a guy who wasn't even murdered.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:12 am to Vacherie Saint
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You are being emotional abo
Not at all. I think, just like Murray Rothbard, that cops should be held to at least the same standard that we hold everyone else to. Most people are to scared or brain washed to see the double standard but it exists.
If the cops pull up and I'm sitting on a dead man's neck with all my weight they'll arrest me for murder.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:18 am to geoag58
Propaganda is an amazing asset. For the life of me though, I can't grasp and understand WHY they want to destroy the country. It is absolutely insane to me
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:22 am to BBONDS25
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the state that prosecuted him.
Do you trust the state?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:24 am to Schleynole
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Do you trust the state?
Very broad question. I don’t make blanket judgments. I would need a lot more facts to determine the answer. Case by case basis. I just found it funny you blanket mistrust the state…yet apparently trust the state to prosecute Chauvin fairly.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:37 am to BBONDS25
We used to ridicule the USSR's use of show trials. Pointed out the human right abuse of the practice. From about 2020-2024, our country put on quite a few of them. Very sad for the rule of law.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:49 am to Schleynole
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If the cops pull up and I'm sitting on a dead man's neck with all my weight they'll arrest me for murder.
Only if he died from you sitting on his neck and not 5x the lethal amount of fentanyl in his system.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:52 am to riccoar
No one can tell us how many PSI of force was applied so no one will ever convince me he’s guilty.
He was indeed sacrificed.
He was indeed sacrificed.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:54 am to Schleynole
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the cops pull up and I'm sitting on a dead man's neck with all my weight they'll arrest me for murder.
What if his head has giant bullet holes in it?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:55 am to BugAC
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How was Floyd murdered?
Fentanyl
By whom? Himself.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:01 pm to Schleynole
The state that jailed a police officer for a murder that never happened? No.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:28 pm to Schleynole
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They should be held to a higher standard, not a lower standard. They're number 1 job should be to keep the citizen alive
No.
Having said that, no police department should be using prone restraint. Minneapolis police knew that and continued to train their officers with this restraint tactic.
That doesn’t translate into a murder 2 charge in any universe.
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