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re: Remember the Fake Security Guard that Murdered the Guy in Denver?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:09 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:09 am to mmcgrath
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Antifa wasn't involved here, and yes they also use bear spray, deer urine, and bike locks. Sometimes I think the fascist groups and antifa just get together and pick teams every week to see which outfits to wear.
the black guy “antagonist” and the girl “spotter” are Antifa activists
we covered this thing for weeks, pulled it apart
there is tons of info that isnt being represented in this thread
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:37 am to the808bass
quote:That's the jury's job.
Dolloff's attorney Doug Richards said that Denver District Attorney Beth McCann planned to dismiss the charges during a pre-trial conference on March 21. “In line with our ethical obligations, we cannot overcome the legal justifications of self-defense or defense of others. We are not able to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt,”
Posted on 3/11/22 at 12:47 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Then state it correctly dumbass
I meant "draw" in that he raised his arm with it, not that he pulled it from a holster.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:10 pm to mmcgrath
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"in fear of great bodily injury"
That’s not the standard.
quote:
they reasonably believe it to be necessary to protect against imminent harm, and (2) they use only the degree of force appropriate for the situation.
It’s all right there.
It 100% should have gone to trial.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:15 pm to supatigah
quote:
Antifa wasn't involved here
Sure they were.
All people involved, photographer, instigator, reporter and shooter had open ties to far-left groups. There was an Antifa counter demonstration in the area. You’re being purposefully obtuse.
The left is making snuff films of killing conservatives and you’re defending them.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:20 pm to Milesahead
Why did he mace him to begin with? How did this confrontation originate? Until I know that I’m not sure what to think, except that I’m staying out of leftist cities as best I can
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:23 pm to GreatPumpkin
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Why did he mace him to begin with?
We’ll never know.
The security cosplay guy walks up to him and puts his hands on him and gets slapped for his efforts. Then Keltner brings up his bear spray and Dolloff murdered him.
If Dolloff had attended his mandatory training for being a security guard, he would’ve learned about deescalating situations and the legal limits of his authority. And also, he would’ve maybe been dressed as a security guard. That would’ve been a big help.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:33 pm to the808bass
you responded to me but arent quoting me
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:35 pm to the808bass
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If Dolloff had attended his mandatory training for being a security guard, he would’ve learned about deescalating situations and the legal limits of his authority. And also, he would’ve maybe been dressed as a security guard. That would’ve been a big help.
and perhaps protecting his client first and foremost as a security guard is supposed to do
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:09 pm to Milesahead
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Security guard status is immaterial to me. It is as simple as this to me: If a gun is known to be present, any physical engagement can expect to be met with lethal force. If the guy didn't make the gun known, I say he shot too fast. If Mr Mace knew he had a gun and he still attacked, I am ok with the shooting. I can't change the rules because of presumed political party.
He did not make the gun known until the deceased pulled the bear mace. Shooter drew, aimed and fired almost immediately. There was no warning and no long delay for the deceased to back away. I would speculate, because I can, the so called “reporter” who turned out to be a member of antifa and the “ security” guard were roaming around looking for an opportunity. I other words, exactly what the left accused Kyle R. of doing.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:16 pm to supatigah
Sorry.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:21 pm to TS1926
quote:The thread that we did when this occurred showed that they were moving about as a team, engaging in provocative behavior and involved in multiple incidents. This absolutely was a set up and they got away with it.
I would speculate, because I can, the so called “reporter” who turned out to be a member of antifa and the “ security” guard were roaming around looking for an opportunity.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:40 pm to the808bass
quote:
Sorry.
no worries, just clarifying
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:48 pm to Wolfhound45
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The thread that we did when this occurred showed that they were moving about as a team, engaging in provocative behavior and involved in multiple incidents. This absolutely was a set up and they got away with it.
there were two activist women, the activist black guy, the activist reporter, a Ch 9 camera man and the activist security guy
the two women were the spotters looking for Right Wingers to interact with/create conflict, the black guy was the agitator/provocateur, the security guy was there to "protect" the reporter/camera guy
the two women were bird dogging right wing groups all day, there was an interaction earlier with the women and Keltner's group that was uneventful. The Black Guy came up after and engaged Keltner's Group, he was there looking for a fight for the camera man and the reporter to film. Keltner realized the setup and confronted Dollof and the reporter and camera man and there was a physical confrontation with Dollof and Keltner. That is when Keltner backed away, sprayed the bear spray and Dollof shot him. All of it on camera.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 3:19 pm to supatigah
quote:Nailed it.
supatigah
Posted on 3/14/22 at 5:42 pm to mmcgrath
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meant "draw" in that he raised his arm with it, not that he pulled it from a holster.
You lying piece of shite.
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