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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:34 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:34 am to somethingdifferent
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Stop stalling. An honest person would answer all of them
ok, the 2002 Fulton County study. Trustworthy science is the signal and he cherrypicks noise. If the Fulton County study were the smoking gun, almost 25 years later we’d all be living in a very different medical reality. The MMR-autism link has been tested so many times that if it were real, it would’ve shown up like a neon sign. Instead, what we’ve got is a story that keeps getting recycled long after the fields have moved on.
And look what he actually does when science is published that he disagrees with - he just asked a journal to retract a study that said aluminum adjuvants in vaccines were safe.
He's a vaccine opponent, not a science advocate.
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:37 am to HeadCall
I’ll give you a hint: it rhymes with holler.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:39 am to Errerrerrwere
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Depression is a mood. Anti depressants help improve mood.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t know that “mood stabilizers” are a different category of medications than “anti-depressants” (SSRIs). It’s OK to admit you were mistaken and learned something new today—I won’t judge.
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You only argue a little about what you know. Admittedly, so.
To be clear, compared to you, I know a lot about a lot.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:40 am to Errerrerrwere
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your argument is that EVERYONE must get a mandated vaccination so 1% of the people don’t die?
Let's talk about the next pandemic. Say a novel virus that no one has immunity comes along a infection fatality rate of 1% like you say. If everyone takes it, it doesn't just save millions, but it avoids blowing up your medical system for caring for other health problems, contains costs, protects economic productivity, and saves disability which will be far above and beyond the millions who don't die. And a mandate isn't even compulsory. We used to have compulsory vaccines where you could go to jail if you refused and you were poor. Now, you're just excluded from some public space so you can't make others sick.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:42 am to onmymedicalgrind
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and their only source of “scientific research”
Our research was living through COVID and watching the CDC fumble their way through it with lies and overreactions.
That combined with what should be common knowledge that most of our govt is bought and paid for and that the CDC and big pharma regularly swap employees…. Well, forgive all of us for having doubts about the things they tell us.
You can read all the studies you want. You probably understand them better than we do on orders of magnitude. But if the published studies are bullshite and half truths… well, there you go.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:58 am to TigerDoc
Well they did change the definition because they knew the COVID shot did not meet the definition of Vaccine.
Of course it didn't change the approval process because it was getting approved no matter what. That's why they changed the definition. There are legal issues when a company changes the definition or standard test methods to put out a product for profits. I know this first hand, as an R&D specialist for over forty years I have developed over 30 products with some so innovative that patients were filled and approved. People can abuse anything and when that abuse causes physical and/or financial damages you can expect the in-coming lawsuit. Discovery is a bitch when the jury finds out that definitions and/or test methods (not following previous standard protocol procedures or changing the minimum requirements) just to get the product in question out to the public that's when your goose is cook. That's why the pharmaceutical companies were giving immunity because what they did would not stand up in a court. Check Mate! Most Doctors are really just apprentices riding the coattails of real PhD Scientists developing medicine and/or equipment to help humanity. You guys are just useful idiots doing what you are told to do. When our group of Scientists saw the definition change we knew to look deeper because we knew something dishonest just happened at the CDC.
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This wording change didn't alter the approval process , legal issues or scientific standards used to evaluate new vaccines.
Of course it didn't change the approval process because it was getting approved no matter what. That's why they changed the definition. There are legal issues when a company changes the definition or standard test methods to put out a product for profits. I know this first hand, as an R&D specialist for over forty years I have developed over 30 products with some so innovative that patients were filled and approved. People can abuse anything and when that abuse causes physical and/or financial damages you can expect the in-coming lawsuit. Discovery is a bitch when the jury finds out that definitions and/or test methods (not following previous standard protocol procedures or changing the minimum requirements) just to get the product in question out to the public that's when your goose is cook. That's why the pharmaceutical companies were giving immunity because what they did would not stand up in a court. Check Mate! Most Doctors are really just apprentices riding the coattails of real PhD Scientists developing medicine and/or equipment to help humanity. You guys are just useful idiots doing what you are told to do. When our group of Scientists saw the definition change we knew to look deeper because we knew something dishonest just happened at the CDC.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:00 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Spoken like someone who doesn’t know that “mood stabilizers” are a different category of medications than “anti-depressants” (SSRIs). It’s OK to admit you were mistaken and learned something new today—I won’t judge.
What did I say here that wasn’t true?
I’m sure you would like to argue semantics; but that is for the mentally challenged to debate.
So, yes. SSRI’s do improve mood. But I’m not a doctor. I don’t need to LAARP on an anonymous forum because I failed out of med school 10 years ago.
You should have went to engineering school
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:08 pm to Born to be a Tiger1
I agree with you 100% that we couldn't provide good treatments or vaccines without great research.
I also agree with you 100% that the CDC fricked up in numerous ways including with the vaccine language on their website, but where I think they fricked up on that was on their pre-pandemic definition. The latter definition is more accurate. I have no problem with these manufacturers paying up massively if some provable harm came from this.
I also agree with you 100% that the CDC fricked up in numerous ways including with the vaccine language on their website, but where I think they fricked up on that was on their pre-pandemic definition. The latter definition is more accurate. I have no problem with these manufacturers paying up massively if some provable harm came from this.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:17 pm to Errerrerrwere
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What did I say here that wasn’t true?
I told you to ask you PCP about "mood stabilizers." You responded with "So SSRIs?"
Thats wrong and not true. You thought SSRIs are mood stabilizers. They are not. Why is it so hard to admit you made a mistake? You're going to pull a hammy trying to back pedal this fast
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So, yes. SSRI’s do improve mood.
Did I say to ask your PCP about "mood improvers" or did I type "mood stabilizers?"
Don't let your pride make you look even dumber.
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I’m sure you would like to argue semantics
You think the difference between "mood stabilizers" and "anti-depressants" is just a semantic difference. Hopefully your PCP knows better.
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But I’m not a doctor.
Clearly.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:23 pm to TigerDoc
Ok, we agree on those things. Where we disagree is that the track record under the old definition that allowed the public recourse through the courts. Do you know how many vaccines were removed because of harming a few people? Vs the new definition essentially giving the pharmaceutical companies immunity without Congress specifically having to protect them.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:33 pm to Placekicker
That guy is parroting the same line of bs they all do.I doubt he's looked at the vaccines enough to confirm how great they are any more than most people. He takes such claims on faith.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:49 pm to Born to be a Tiger1
Yeah, I think we're getting closer. You’re right that vaccines have been pulled before when rare harms showed up (RotaShield is a good example, you probably know some others I don't) and I agree that legal recourse matters for trust.
Where we may be mixing things up is in linking that to the CDC’s 2021 wording change. That was about communication, not law. The liability protections come from Congress (the 1986 program, the PREP Act for COVID), not a CDC definition.
So I think your broader point about how recourse has shifted is important. It just isn’t tied to that definition change.
Where we may be mixing things up is in linking that to the CDC’s 2021 wording change. That was about communication, not law. The liability protections come from Congress (the 1986 program, the PREP Act for COVID), not a CDC definition.
So I think your broader point about how recourse has shifted is important. It just isn’t tied to that definition change.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:00 pm to TigerDoc
WE KNOW we were lied to about Covid. Don't try to defend it. Anthony Fauci and his ilk are as bad as any SS bastard that goosestepped in Nazi Germany and thats a fact.
If you stand with Fauci they should put a fricking rope around your neck right with the rest of them. End of story and shut the hell up.
If you stand with Fauci they should put a fricking rope around your neck right with the rest of them. End of story and shut the hell up.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:01 pm to antibarner
Alabama sucks, baw.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:04 pm to TigerDoc
Murderer. You just proved your lack of character you fricking liar. You still peddling the mask BS? How about distancing? Lets close those schools.
That vaccine didn't prevent shite nor did it lessen severity. I know it you know it and now everyone knows it. They should hang people like you for crimes against humanity.
That vaccine didn't prevent shite nor did it lessen severity. I know it you know it and now everyone knows it. They should hang people like you for crimes against humanity.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:07 pm to antibarner
Countries have executed scientists in reactionary fervor and I hope we don't go there. Go look at what the Soviets did to genetics - did not turn out well for public health to say the least, millions dead of malnutrition. Sad!
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:12 pm to TigerDoc
Youre not a scientist youre a monster Dr Mengele. Not fit for a bullet and not fit to practice medicine on a cat much less people.
You should lose your license for advocating your bullshite. You and your kind killed millions Your runt hero played God and created this disease lied about it then misled us all and murdered millions..
Hopefully there WILL BE attention brought to this matter!
You should lose your license for advocating your bullshite. You and your kind killed millions Your runt hero played God and created this disease lied about it then misled us all and murdered millions..
Hopefully there WILL BE attention brought to this matter!
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:13 pm to TigerDoc
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TigerDoc
Lost in translation of any of your words is the simple definition of a vaccine. If a vaccine truly works, and you take it, you should have no worries if others do or dont take it.
Explain why you give a frick if I take a hepatitis vaccine. Because if a vaccine exists, and you took it, youre in no danger.
You can NEVER explain to me why a newborn needs 30 vaccines. But feel free to continue to ignorantly try
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:15 pm to antibarner
I would be mad if I'd lost to 2-10 Florida State too.
Why don't you work off some of that anger by parking a moving truck in front of DeBoer's house instead of this cringe?
Why don't you work off some of that anger by parking a moving truck in front of DeBoer's house instead of this cringe?
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:19 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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If a vaccine truly works, and you take it, you should have no worries if others do or dont take it.
Nice when we can get this, but it's rare and it's never come quickly.
The main reason for mandates is for people too sick to be able to be vaccinated. Like this kid with leukemia, who was able to go to school like other kids because his classmates were vaccinated. Sometimes diseases going away entirely if enough people are vaccinated. We eliminated measles for awhile this way.
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