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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:22 pm to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:22 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Doctors are not dieticians and we receive no education on it in med school. I picked it up on my on. I've been high protein, low carb since the early 90's in college. I felt better and kept my weight down. The no processed food was just intuitive. I spend many summers with my great grandparents on their farm where about everything they ate was grown, killed, made on site.
Would love to homestead. I plan on taking early retirement to do it. I want my grandkids to grow up eating and doing things like I got to do.
There are a few that are self-educated, like yourself. I only added that because there is a perception amongst many in the public that most Dr's are also nutrition experts, especially as many don't hesitate to give nutrition advice.
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:26 pm to northshorebamaman
Men's Health was one of my best resources...before they went woke and gay.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:37 pm to crazy4lsu
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Just because you feel that several entities lied to you or were less than honest about COVID
You think that's just a feeling?
Idiot.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:41 pm to TigerDoc
My perspective is worthless because i have no experience in the pharmaceutical manufacturing industry. All i was trying to do was help you understand how most people view this subject. They are pissed, and rightfully so, that the government WITH THE BACKING OF THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY could mandate a vaccine that was functionally useless and possibly extremely dangerous. I can tell you how that happened: corruption, bribery, and payoffs.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:47 pm to Flats
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You think that's just a feeling?
Let’s be real, it’s all magic to you anyway.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:48 pm to RandRules
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that was functionally useless and possibly extremely dangerous
Choose one. It can’t be both.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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Let’s be real, it’s all magic to you anyway.
You have one, don't you.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:56 pm to Flats
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You have one, don't you.
I bet you wish I did. Sorry you can’t understand anything about nuance or science or anything that matters. Go repeat the same boring arguments people have been making for a few years now. I’m sure you will eventually understand if you try really hard little dude.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 6:59 pm to Placekicker
We want everyone in wearable tech asap
RFKjr
This is Jesuit theater.
This is dialectic theater.
This warms the hearts, melts people into trust and submission while the primary agenda of transhuman technocrats takes further hold, at which point most of this bs doesn’t even matter anymore.
RFKjr
This is Jesuit theater.
This is dialectic theater.
This warms the hearts, melts people into trust and submission while the primary agenda of transhuman technocrats takes further hold, at which point most of this bs doesn’t even matter anymore.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:06 pm to crazy4lsu
I never bring feelings into a debate, nor have i here. I stated that you speak condescendingly to people and although it is only my opinion, i stand by that.
Several entities did lie directly to the American people. Covid and how it even came to be was a lie. The solution of a vaccine and the vaccine itself, both lies. I could go on in perpetuity about all the dishonest things that were said and done in regards to Covid. I am not being subjective. These are facts.
I don’t have any clue as to whether vaccines cause any of that. I’m not qualified to speak on the subject. What I can tell you is I felt like a guinea pig after getting the Covid shot. No one knows what the effects of the vaccine will be 10 or 20 years from now and that rightfully scares people.
Here is what I know to be true: vaccines benefits should outweigh their associated risks. Please enlighten me on how the Covid vax meets this standard.
Several entities did lie directly to the American people. Covid and how it even came to be was a lie. The solution of a vaccine and the vaccine itself, both lies. I could go on in perpetuity about all the dishonest things that were said and done in regards to Covid. I am not being subjective. These are facts.
I don’t have any clue as to whether vaccines cause any of that. I’m not qualified to speak on the subject. What I can tell you is I felt like a guinea pig after getting the Covid shot. No one knows what the effects of the vaccine will be 10 or 20 years from now and that rightfully scares people.
Here is what I know to be true: vaccines benefits should outweigh their associated risks. Please enlighten me on how the Covid vax meets this standard.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:18 pm to crazy4lsu
My mistake. What i meant was the Covid vax was not beneficial in any way to those receiving the shots and possibly even dangerous.
Reading your response, i cant help but wonder what the vax was created for. It could do absolutely nothing good or bad for all i know. The fact that government pushed it so hard makes me want to think there is some sinister underlying effect it may have much later but I doubt it. Covid was a scam and like any other scam, this was 100% about money
Reading your response, i cant help but wonder what the vax was created for. It could do absolutely nothing good or bad for all i know. The fact that government pushed it so hard makes me want to think there is some sinister underlying effect it may have much later but I doubt it. Covid was a scam and like any other scam, this was 100% about money
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:26 pm to RandRules
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Covid was a scam and like any other scam, this was 100% about money
They can print money.
It was about a heck of a lot more than money.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:30 pm to Rico Manning
True. It may have been more about control. What do you think was the motive?
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:31 pm to RandRules
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I stated that you speak condescendingly to people and although it is only my opinion, i stand by that
They have stupid opinions that are usually part of some very poor arguments. And generally I match the tone of the person speaking to me. If I detect a bad-faith discussion, yes I am going to write people off.
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What I can tell you is I felt like a guinea pig after getting the Covid shot
lol. Can you clutch your pearls any harder?
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No one knows what the effects of the vaccine will be 10 or 20 years from now and that rightfully scares people.
That’s not the way any of this works. Am I supposed to take this opinion, which flies in the face of the very basics of how pathological mechanisms of injury work on the cellular level, seriously?
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Here is what I know to be true: vaccines benefits should outweigh their associated risks.
That’s an argument contingent on circumstance. For example, the earliest attempts at inoculation had extremely high injury rates, including deaths that were directly related to the inoculation attempt. In that case, inoculation was still pursued as a strategy because we had no other choice. For a very long time, vaccinations also produced relatively high injury rates. They did happen to produce a robust immune response, but now, we would not accept an injury rate that high. Thus the trick has become to produce vaccines that are immunogenic (capable of producing an immune response) but also have extremely low injury rates.
In the context of the first COVID vaccines, the logic was ‘anything at all will do,’ as we needed something fast, with easy scalability. For the original strain, the first mRNA vaccines were passable, but we really didn’t use them as they were originally advertised, which, if you recall, including constant updates to the immunogenic profile as the virus evolved. Would I have chosen that route? No, as I think something easily inhaled would have been a better choice for this type of pathogen. I also wouldn’t have released the vaccine piecemeal, as that ensured the pandemic was going to be prolonged. I also wouldn’t have chosen the public relations strategy that certain prominent medical leaders chose.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:38 pm to RandRules
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Reading your response, i cant help but wonder what the vax was created for. It could do absolutely nothing good or bad for all i know. The fact that government pushed it so hard makes me want to think there is some sinister underlying effect it may have much later but I doubt it. Covid was a scam and like any other scam, this was 100% about money
It was definitely about money. The times in recent history we were serious about disease control, we released the spoils of research pretty freely. That both the German and US governments fought so hard to keep copyright protections for the mRNA vaccines was extremely illuminating. The technology is promising but it wasn’t so promising that we had to prolong the pandemic. And that is what keeping the technology hidden behind copyright effectively did.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:45 pm to RandRules
I don’t think your perspective is worthless at all. Like you say, it’s exactly how a lot of regular people felt, and part of why the pandemic response went sideways. The government and medical community really did fail at explaining things clearly. Early messaging was confusing, goals kept shifting, and trust broke down.
Where I see it differently is on the “useless and dangerous” part. The vaccines were far from perfect, but they cut the risk of hospitalization and death in a huge way, especially before treatments improved. We had patients who were vaccinated not have to turn up to the hospital, and unvaccinated people of the same age end up in the ICU. That’s not corruption. It’s just a practical difference that mattered to families in the middle of it.
Where I see it differently is on the “useless and dangerous” part. The vaccines were far from perfect, but they cut the risk of hospitalization and death in a huge way, especially before treatments improved. We had patients who were vaccinated not have to turn up to the hospital, and unvaccinated people of the same age end up in the ICU. That’s not corruption. It’s just a practical difference that mattered to families in the middle of it.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:49 pm to crazy4lsu
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In the context of the first COVID vaccines, the logic was ‘anything at all will do,’ as we needed something fast, with easy scalability.
And in their haste they created a “vax” that didn’t work. It didn’t keep people from getting covid and it didn’t flatten the curve.
But a shitton of senators legislators and doctors got extremely rich extremely quickly.
They they fired people who didn’t get the jab and shut down schools all while allowing their voters to riot in multiple US cities.
Then they started ruining doctors lives who prescribed Ivermectin and hydroxycloroquine. shite that’s actually been tested for years.
There is a reason people don’t trust the med community and why RFK is popular. Because you’ve lost your reliability trustworthiness and integrity.
I think yall got scared. Very few of you have the balls to stand up and go against the majority even when you know it’s wrong. My personal Dr told me I should get the jab. Then two years later said he didn’t and I shouldn’t take anymore in his opinion. Pussy
But keep repeating the same shite. It doesn’t matter anymore. RFK may be a quack but he’s dumping covered up bullshite into the light.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:53 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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The government and medical community really did fail at explaining things clearly. Early messaging was confusing, goals kept shifting, and trust broke down.
That’s not what they did.
They lied. About Covid about the vax about masks about alternate med about efficacy about who was getting paid. They faked numbers to keep the numbers high. Died in a car wreck? Had Covid with no symptoms? Covid death. Fauci killed people.
Like I said before. I think doctors just got scared. Then they leaned into the very people lying to them.
Take responsibility for it. It’s a wonder anyone believes you now.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:57 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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That’s not what they did.
They lied.
That's extremely difficult if not impossible for some of them to admit.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:59 pm to TigerDoc
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TigerDoc
Why even waste your time with these goons?
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