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re: Ron Desantis goes full Kasich while his poll #s plunge
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:47 pm to pankReb
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:47 pm to pankReb
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Maybe Ron should just start calling Trump by funny names.
Probably not. He needs to figure out something to generate buzz. This cliche of a primary candidate that's been done since forever is not really working, as much as you want to believe otherwise.
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:48 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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He needs to figure out something to generate buzz.
Shouldn't solid conservative policy and proven implementations of said policies be enough to generate buzz?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:51 pm to BugAC
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It's funny, you switch characters from the "i'm just here to point out why you are wrong and will use some logical parameters followed by me alone" to:
He vacillates between reasoned critic of DeSantis’ campaign strategy and borderline troll.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:53 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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He needs to figure out something to generate buzz.
What if he dressed up in an American flag leotard and shot machine guns into the air?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:54 pm to pankReb
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Shouldn't solid conservative policy and proven implementations of said policies be enough to generate buzz?
In a perfect world, sure.
You don't think we are anywhere close to residing in such a place, do you?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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In a perfect world, sure.
The world doesn't have to be even close to perfect for conservatives, especially of the adult variety, to appreciate conservative policies/implementation more than awesome rallies, photo ops and funny name calling.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Probably not. He needs to figure out something to generate buzz.
This is just my guess, but i assume you are going to see his campaign grow as the months go forward. No sense in blowing your wad now, when no one is paying attention. I think this fall you'll see a larger front, and a debate sends him over the top.
However, we have seen sycophants not wanting Trump to debate for fear that his policies and knowledge aren't nearly as strong as DeSantis.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:58 pm to BugAC
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No, i'm discussing consistency and hypocrisy
You are discussing the wrong topic.
I haven't suggested some Trump supporters aren't assholes. I'm not suggesting that Trump's assholes aren't negatively impacting him. I haven't addressed any of that. I did address the opinion that most of the Ronbots here are very similarly unlikable.
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To a die hard Trump sycophant. I agree that is what the sycophants think. Which is why they are called sycophants/cult/etc... If you have no concern for your own hypocrisy then that means you are fanatical. Which means you are devoid of logic and reason. Again, making everything you post as valuable as a fart in the wind.
I actually laughed out loud at you for this. Your need to control my opinion is humorous. I'm not even trying to change your opinion. Just justifying my own. You are actually angry...internally affected by my opinion.
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I don't know if you are familiar with the search history on this website, but it isn't very granular. Got a link to those things i discussed? Or are you doing what so many others do and rather than discuss a substantive topic, just say, "i already posted that, anyone can find it" and leave it at that?
Read my opinions here:
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:02 pm to Fun Bunch
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Show your work.
You misunderstood my point...again.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:03 pm to moneyg
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You are actually angry...internally affected by my opinion.
Weird response given that you’ve said you don’t like DeSantis because of pro-DeSantis posters here.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:04 pm to the808bass
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I do
I don't think you do if you are insinuating that the Desantis campaign actually had to take and release the photo op for it to be a photo op.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:04 pm to David_DJS
Do you think "conservatives of the adult variety" represent anything close to 51% of the voting populace?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:06 pm to moneyg
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“I’ll never vote for desantis because of reasons that I’ve completely made up even thought I agree with his policies”.
found your opinion
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:09 pm to David_DJS
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So when he asks for you to provide backup or evidence supporting your position that DeSantis is "establishment" in ways Trump is not, you make it all clear with: I know shite that you don't.
I've laid out the two major factors that prevent me from voting for Desantis. Read it if you want. Don't read it. I really don't care. I'm definitely not asking you to agree with it.
But, at least have a shred of intellectual honesty and not try and define my position out of thin air.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:10 pm to the808bass
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You are actually angry...internally affected by my opinion.
Weird response given that you’ve said you don’t like DeSantis because of pro-DeSantis posters here.
I think he's averaged 1.5 outright hypocritical posts per page today.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:10 pm to Fun Bunch
All of which were and are excellent moves on Trump’s part. Are y’all ignoring the reality of politics this badly? I refuse to believe y’all never possessed these thought processes to begin with. So just as a refresher, you absolutely cannot effect your agenda and platform if you lose. Just as a general matter. And on a broader scale, you can’t effect truly historic results on your agenda (as President) without, ideally of course, majorities in Congress.
Trump’s moves with the three parties that you referenced are directly aimed at improving his chances to win as well as setting a more advantageous stage if and when he does win. The Republican chairwoman and Graham (for whom Trump made the point to note that he and Graham don’t necessarily agree on everything) specifically for added benefit, if and when relevant and necessary, during the primary and general election phases. After all, a “mere” House of Representatives member pretty much turned the tide for Biden in South Carolina, secured him the nomination with just that effort in that state. Thus it appears that SC may end up being very important in primary and having the long tenured Republican Senator from there will possibly be very advantageous.
And if Trump were to win the general, a preexisting alliance with the SOTH is a pretty good foundation from which to begin your work.
Sorry for the typical lengthy post. Just trying to cover all those crucial bases.
Trump’s moves with the three parties that you referenced are directly aimed at improving his chances to win as well as setting a more advantageous stage if and when he does win. The Republican chairwoman and Graham (for whom Trump made the point to note that he and Graham don’t necessarily agree on everything) specifically for added benefit, if and when relevant and necessary, during the primary and general election phases. After all, a “mere” House of Representatives member pretty much turned the tide for Biden in South Carolina, secured him the nomination with just that effort in that state. Thus it appears that SC may end up being very important in primary and having the long tenured Republican Senator from there will possibly be very advantageous.
And if Trump were to win the general, a preexisting alliance with the SOTH is a pretty good foundation from which to begin your work.
Sorry for the typical lengthy post. Just trying to cover all those crucial bases.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:10 pm to moneyg
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But, at least have a shred of intellectual honest
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:14 pm to pankReb
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"No you don't understand my point......my point is that I'm just not gonna acknowledge that."
No. My point is that none of that is the reason I'm not voting or Desantis.
Those are your creations.
In a nutshell, that the GOPe wants Desantis and that Desantis hasn't come out against the GOPe (both) is why I can't vote for him.
Of course, that doesn't matter because he isn't winning the primary. The campaign isn't even trying to win. The objective is clearly to derail Trump in the general.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:16 pm to moneyg
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In a nutshell, that the GOPe wants Desantis and that Desantis hasn't come out against the GOPe (both) is why I can't vote for him.
Let me get this straight. You won’t vote for DeSantis because he hasn’t come out and public said the right words to be “against” some amorphous, undefinable boogeyman?
I bet you love RFK though and his promises to attack vague and undefinable things like the “Deep State”.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:16 pm to moneyg
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In a nutshell, that the GOPe wants Desantis and that Desantis hasn't come out against the GOPe (both) is why I can't vote for him.
but that and having literal GOPe at the highest levels of your campaign staff is fine though......
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