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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:02 am to VolcanicTiger
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:02 am to VolcanicTiger
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Today's science was yesterday's magic. Today's magic is tomorrow's science.
These same midwits accuse us of employing "God of the Gaps" but they do the exact same thing with science.
And this dipshit claims to be a scientist.
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:04 am to VolcanicTiger
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if it becomes observable in a 24 hour window (as it it wasn't there yesterday but it is here today), we would only see its very infant stages.
So applying that to the notion of the universe being a simulation ...the universe has limited RAM? Im not being sarcastic just trying to understand your thought
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:04 am to Flats
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Sorta like the current explanation of the Big Bang. As an explanation it's every bit as supernatural, by definition, as saying "God did it".
There's nothing about the Big Bang theory that necessarily excludes God. It can be that the theory is correct, AND that God did it.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:04 am to TrueTiger
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The simulation could deliver whale legs.
So can a Walmart.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:04 am to TrueTiger
quote:What exactly is the simulation?
The simulation could deliver whale legs.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:06 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You're thirsty for attention. Does the abuse I give you remind you of someone from your childhood? You're obviously out of your depth here. At this point smacking you around is like how I would feel if I met you in real life and found out you are a 400-pound handicapped dude. Go away.
And this dipshit claims to be a scientist.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:07 am to VolcanicTiger
I don't need your replies and I don't care about your opinions.
I think you're an idiot, and I'll point that out the same for you as I would for anyone else. You aren't special.
I think you're an idiot, and I'll point that out the same for you as I would for anyone else. You aren't special.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:08 am to ThuperThumpin
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you continue to treat simulation theory and evolution theory as mutually exclusive and they are not.
I saw your earlier comment and I don't disagree.
The simulation code could easily be built on old code and we notice remnants of it. Like fossils.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:11 am to TrueTiger
Poliboard discovers how science works.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:13 am to ThuperThumpin
quote:Well the alternative would be unlimited RAM, which would seem to be impossible. If not unlimited, then far more than is needed, like needing a supercomputer to run a calculator.
So applying that to the notion of the universe being a simulation ...the universe has limited RAM?
Think about it this way: if electrons, as we now understand them, aren't represented by orbitals in terms of where they are, but orbitals in terms of their probability of being at any one place within that orbital at a given time, then that alone creates a seemingly incalculable number. Now put that number to the power of x, where x is the number of electrons in the universe - impossibly large number. Now consider that electrons may depend on smaller particles, and other particles exist as well. To run every single one at every single point in time is pointless. It makes infinitely more sense to operate as though they are in a known range, and process based on that. Go for precision on an as-needed basis, i.e. when it is being observed.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Your opinions are shite so you can GFY.
I think you're an idiot, and I'll point that out the same for you as I would for anyone else. You aren't special.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:14 am to VolcanicTiger
quote:
These same midwits accuse us of employing "God of the Gaps" but they do the exact same thing with science.
“Midwit”
Let me check my glossary of idiotic slang gibberish…
You guys seem to be experts on projection, ignorance, and lies. You attempt to project your own faults onto others. Seriously, pick up a book explaining the scientific method and you’ll learn something, and you’ll see that there is no modern peer-reviewed scientific literature claiming “we don’t know how it works exactly, so it must be an invisible magic genie in the sky who did it.”
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:16 am to VolcanicTiger
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Your opinions are shite so you can GFY.
K.
Maybe you should stick to idiotic observations and pseudoscience.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:16 am to Squirrelmeister
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“Midwit”
Let me check my glossary of idiotic slang gibberish…
You guys seem to be experts on projection, ignorance, and lies. You attempt to project your own faults onto others. Seriously, pick up a book explaining the scientific method and you’ll learn something, and you’ll see that there is no modern peer-reviewed scientific literature claiming “we don’t know how it works exactly, so it must be an invisible magic genie in the sky who did it.”
The funny thing is you've probably never taken a science class besides HS biology. Twice.
Get back in your cage, squirrel. Your daddy issues and Star Trek T-shirts do not imbue you with scientific literacy.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I wouldn't want to encroach on your territory. That's also why you won't see me at the methadone clinic looking for dates.
Maybe you should stick to idiotic observations and pseudoscience.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:18 am to Squirrelmeister
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Let me check my glossary
No need, just check it for a definition of "supernatural". Then tell the class how "first there was nothing, then it exploded" is NOT supernatural.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:19 am to VolcanicTiger
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That's also why you won't see me at the methadone clinic looking for dates
Is that where cuckeye hangs out at?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:21 am to NC_Tigah
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Show me the fossil record of discrete incremental steps
Ah, you want certain proof, rather than distinct probability.
Assuming those incremental life forms did exist at one point, what would be the probability that an example of each exists in the fossil record now? and if such a record did exist, it would render evolution something more than theory, would it not?
FTR, I certainly can cite convincing evolutionary fossil sequences, in horses for example, complete with living examples of progressive transition in donkeys and zebra.
But in more general terms, we know there have been at least 5 mass extinctions over Earth's history. Each eliminated >75% of existing species at the time. In one instance, the Permian Extinction, 96% of species disappeared.
In each instance, new and arguably more advanced life replaced the lost species. Where did the new species come from?
Further, why are sabertoothed cats extinct while their later evolving big cat relatives survive? Why aren't modern beavers the 8ft behemoths the once were.
True evolution to get to complex life is not what you're describing. For example a sabertooth tiger is still a feline and is related to a house cat, a huge beaver from hundreds of thousands of years ago is still a rodent and related to modern day beavers. I want to see the proof of progression of life from single cell to modern man that removes any doubt that "real evolution" not adaptation or speciation is the scientific proof for modern man. I want to see proof how over billions of years a single cell organism evolved to modern man. As I said in another post there is not a hominid today that would be considered a true link to modern man....not even close.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:23 am to TrueTiger
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simulation code could easily be built on old code and we notice remnants of it. Like fossils.
But you continue to say you favor simulation theory over evolution but I don't understand how you are comparing the two when any theory of creation or life development can exist within a simulation. If our universe.....our perceived reality... is prime or not is really the only question
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:27 am to Flats
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Then tell the class how "first there was nothing, then it exploded" is NOT supernatural.
Continue to project creation ex nihilo onto a scientific theory that does not make that claim…
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