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re: Scott Bessent is setting the record straight at Treasury!!
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:08 pm to Keltic Tiger
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:08 pm to Keltic Tiger
It went something like this.
DOGE: "We need you to pull all of your expenditures / disbursements for the past 10 years. We need the Vendor Name, TIN / SSN, bank account number, amount, date, blah blah blah."
DOGE:"For each disbursement, we want the encumbrance, payment request, funding source info-- the purchase order, grant, program, blah blah blah"
FED: "That's millions of transactions. "
DOGE:"Yep."
FED:"I am not comfortable giving that to you."
DOGE:"Well, you're gonna. You know who sent us,".
FED:"What are you going to do with it?"
DOGE: grins
FED: "Well, I'll resign."
DOGE: "Where's your deputy?"
DOGE: "We need you to pull all of your expenditures / disbursements for the past 10 years. We need the Vendor Name, TIN / SSN, bank account number, amount, date, blah blah blah."
DOGE:"For each disbursement, we want the encumbrance, payment request, funding source info-- the purchase order, grant, program, blah blah blah"
FED: "That's millions of transactions. "
DOGE:"Yep."
FED:"I am not comfortable giving that to you."
DOGE:"Well, you're gonna. You know who sent us,".
FED:"What are you going to do with it?"
DOGE: grins
FED: "Well, I'll resign."
DOGE: "Where's your deputy?"
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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it’s always different when your team does it.
Ummm... Elon was your team captain 6 months ago.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:12 pm to Timeoday
So they found how the CIA gets their money to do drug running?
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It may be true now that they’re on “read only” to view the payments it’s clear that wasn’t the case initially.
Also says nothing about whether they have the ability to write new code into the system.
I love how y'all pretend to be completely ignorant about basic shite when it looks bad for your team.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Read only of the front facing payment system and read only on the how program itself functions are two different things. Basic computer stuff here.
And now you're an expert...that has no expertise.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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of course, it’s always different when your team does it.
Holy shite. Irony overload in this thread.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:40 pm to RohanGonzales
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Who the frick are you
seeing as you only registered here less than a year ago, who the frick are YOU
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:42 pm to SDVTiger
i know i know you only care about your political sports team and making them look good. no interest in honesty no ability in critical thinking.
you’re no better or different than the leftists you claim to hate. it’s hard to watch.
you’re no better or different than the leftists you claim to hate. it’s hard to watch.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
For some reason, the X embed is no longer working. I wonder what happened? Regardless, I found it on Youtube.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 8:08 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:13 pm to BigBro
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I disagree. I have seen "read only" from the beginning..
Read only = no ability to write new code
You are fishing or a troll or fricking stupid.
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On January 31, David Lebryk, the most senior career civil servant in the Treasury, announced he would retire; he had been placed on administrative leave after refusing to give Musk’s DOGE team access to the federal payment system. The next morning, sources tell WIRED, Elez was granted read and write access to PAM and SPS.
On February 3, Politico reported that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Republican lawmakers in the House Financial Services Committee that Musk and DOGE didn’t have control over key Treasury systems. The same day, The New York Times reported that Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, said that DOGE’s access was “read-only.”
The significance of this is that the ability to alter the code on these systems would in theory give a DOGE technologist—and, by extension, Musk, President Donald Trump, or other actors—the capability to, among other things, illegally cut off Congressionally authorized payments to specific individuals or entities. (CNN reported on Thursday that Musk associates had demanded that Treasury pause authorized payments to USAID, precipitating Lebryk’s resignation.)
On February 4, WIRED reported that Elez did, in fact, have admin access to PAM and SPS. Talking Points Memo reported later that day that Elez had “made extensive changes to the code base for these critical payment systems.” In a letter that same day that did not mention Musk or DOGE, Treasury official Jonathan Blum wrote to Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, “Currently, Treasury staff members working with Tom Krause, a Treasury employee, will have read-only to the coded data of the Fiscal Service’s payment systems.” (Krause is the top DOGE operative at Treasury and CEO of Cloud Software Group.) The letter did not say what kind of access the staff members actually had.
Sources tell WIRED that by afternoon of the next day, February 5, Elez’s access had been changed to “read-only” from both read and code-writing privileges.
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:56 am to Timeoday
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"Pull this thread," a senior official warned, watching patterns emerge across DOGE's screens, "and the whole sweater unravels."
If only there was a thread about this.
An "Unraveling Thread of Everything" thread. That would be great.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:09 am to 2 Jugs
This would normally have been an end of discussion but in the post-truth era that the left created we now know that it doesn't matter if they are of the Treasury and that DOGE is legit etc etc they feel its not, the media are running that angle and most folks are not going to dig deep.
Trump has it right, move fast and move hard now. There will be a point when they can't move fast or maybe at all. Get as much done now as possible.
Trump has it right, move fast and move hard now. There will be a point when they can't move fast or maybe at all. Get as much done now as possible.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:11 am to Timeoday
Sunlight is really the best disinfectant, right?
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:16 am to Decatur
So un-named sources are all you have to go on for him having "write" access. That's not much, but let's say they just gave him admin privilege because it was expedient.
I don't know how this particular government software's pipeline is set up, but if it's even remotely modern there's source control, review processes, and whole pipelines of builds set up for code changes to get from a developer (even with admin privilege) to a release candidate. So not only would any changes have to go through a gated process, but any changes by the individual would be directly tied to him, forever enshrined in the source control system. You can't just slip something in.
This entire kerfuffle about "write" access is just dem fear mongering, hoping to create enough emotional push back to give them time to better hide their grift.
I don't know how this particular government software's pipeline is set up, but if it's even remotely modern there's source control, review processes, and whole pipelines of builds set up for code changes to get from a developer (even with admin privilege) to a release candidate. So not only would any changes have to go through a gated process, but any changes by the individual would be directly tied to him, forever enshrined in the source control system. You can't just slip something in.
This entire kerfuffle about "write" access is just dem fear mongering, hoping to create enough emotional push back to give them time to better hide their grift.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
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seeing as you only registered here less than a year ago, who the frick are YOU
This post needs to be in the Chicken hall of fame.
It would have been much easier to proclaim yourself a loser who can't win an internet argument, but you do you.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:12 am to cadillacattack
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Sunlight is really the best disinfectant, right?
This is probably the most exciting time I have ever witnessed regarding the work and reaction going on in government. People must understand our government serves us.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
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know i know you only care about your political sports team and making them look good. no interest in honesty no ability in critical thinking.
you’re no better or different than the leftists you claim to hate. it’s hard to watch.
Im sure its difficult for to watch all the winning from my team
You were nowhere to be found the last 4yrs and just now feel the need to cry like a girl
Typical hypocrite leftard
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
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How does one file a lawsuit that doesn’t allege lawbreaking?
This comment alone should tell everyone in this thread that they’re wasting their time arguing with an idiot.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:56 am to Timeoday
What I took away from the Bloomberg interview
Every forecast is built on the rate of increase of spending
quote:
What if the S (spending) actually went down?
Every forecast is built on the rate of increase of spending
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