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re: Sen. Rand Paul walks out of Paul Ryan meeting
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:02 pm to Jimbeaux
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:02 pm to Jimbeaux
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Stupid and wrong. Just willful ignorance on display.
It is wilful ignorance to think that Donald Trump wants Obamacare repealed and replaced with anything but single-payer. He was even pushing for it indirectly in the debate with Clinton.
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:13 pm to GumboPot
What if forcing right means getting it correct the first time and figuring out the most feasibly conservative option possible? Are you willing to wait 6-18 months for them to get it right? Don't be like punknugget.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:30 pm to TN Bhoy
When State lines are opened up across the board for health care; single payer gov insurance is nearly impossible.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:32 pm to Kentucker
Wouldnt* sorry
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:32 pm to Lou Pai
The thing is, no one trusts the republicans to really do anything regarding ObamaCare in 6-28 months. They are like the democrats, lip-service.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:34 pm to cajunangelle
They better do something while they have the political capital to do so.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:34 pm to cajunangelle
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When State lines are opened up across the board for health care; single payer gov insurance is nearly impossible.
Are you going to admit that Trump was just repeating the one phrase he understood from Rubio's earlier answer in the debate which got applause? That he then decided to keep repeating that line over and over again in every other debate all the while giving every liberal talking point about health care ('people would die in the street!') and just hoping that people would not care?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:41 pm to cajunangelle
I don't know when but the administration of healthcare in the US will come to a huge crossroads soon. You simply cannot allow people to enter the insurance market when they have recently acquired a life threatening illness like stage 4 cancer or significant heart disease. The mandate that coverage extends to preexisting conditions that so many want is simply not financially sustainable for insurance companies.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:08 pm to pleading the fifth
Are there truly any health care companies still on board with ObamaCare? Isn't this the last one to drop ObamaCare? Or are they down to one now?
This should get it's own thread. With the Flynn stuff no one is paying attention.
Humana to drop out of ObamaCare at end of 2017 | TheHill 02/14/17 04:56 PM EST-
LINK
And yes, Boosie, if the republicans don't act they won't get another chance. Funny thing is, a few months ago they were giddy saying; they all knew damned well they better adhere to Trumps policies-- as thats what the American people voted for...
Has Trump acted on term limits yet? I heard mumblings, did the pubs vote on it, discuss it? The cancer in DC was metastasized with W and Obama. You at least must admit, that Trump has a fight on all quarters from DC all around and the media.
One big arse chemo shot is needed but where and how does he inject it?
This should get it's own thread. With the Flynn stuff no one is paying attention.
Humana to drop out of ObamaCare at end of 2017 | TheHill 02/14/17 04:56 PM EST-
LINK
And yes, Boosie, if the republicans don't act they won't get another chance. Funny thing is, a few months ago they were giddy saying; they all knew damned well they better adhere to Trumps policies-- as thats what the American people voted for...
Has Trump acted on term limits yet? I heard mumblings, did the pubs vote on it, discuss it? The cancer in DC was metastasized with W and Obama. You at least must admit, that Trump has a fight on all quarters from DC all around and the media.
One big arse chemo shot is needed but where and how does he inject it?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I keep seeing this thrown out as some sort of 'gotcha' for ordinary citizens who want it gone. What's the choice here for ordinary citizens who want it gone?
Vote for a guy that says he will drain the swamp and has zero political background?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:10 pm to goldennugget
quote:Because MAGA!
GOP leadership has ZERO intention of repealing Obamacare
No idea why people still can't see this
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Stop being fooled by the establishment fascists who promise Hope and Change, and MAGA?
I keep seeing this thrown out as some sort of 'gotcha' for ordinary citizens who want it gone. What's the choice here for ordinary citizens who want it gone?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:16 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Heh. You know the guy who this thread is about?
He ran for president, I think.
He ran for president, I think.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:17 pm to The Spleen
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have been misled
That happened to get it passed. The majority of Americans didn't want it. Yet they passed it anyway.
There are still 30 Million without insurance so all it accomplished was getting the poor subsidies and raising the rates for working Americans. It's a shite law and there might be some tenants of the bill that are good, it is a disaster in its entirety. You trying to say otherwise is just showing you are the one most uniformed on the issue.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:17 pm to cajunangelle
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Are there truly any health care companies still on board with ObamaCare?
Humana is the first one to publicly announce they were completely pulling out of it. Some have pulled out of certain states, but not a complete vacation. Aetna, Blue Cross, United, etc. all are still participating, but participation varies greatly from state to state.
Probably start seeing more pulling out following the news of the IRS stopping enforcement of the individual mandate. Plus I doubt the Trump administration is going to put any advertising effort into it when renewals come up later this year. My theory is this intentional on their part to create more chaos and uncertainty in the market to further justify their repeal efforts.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:24 pm to bamafan1001
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Rand is a patriot. He is still in the Senate for a reason
Rand wont get elected President for the same reason Ron never got elected President....only 20 yo dick heads support him.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:05 pm to AUbused
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42 Times.
42 times the house passed repeal while Obama was in office.
Does anything more need to be said?
They knew it would never be passed into law and would not have to deal with the fallout?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:15 pm to The Spleen
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the IRS stopping enforcement of the individual mandate.
The IRS gets 1095-C's to verify a persons health insurance. As well as, all of those on medicare and ObamaCare get forms duplicated to themselves and the IRS. If a tax payer does not have these forms they are to be charged and the amount deducted from their refunds/and or owed to the IRS.
The mandate was ordered by POTUS Obama via a crap load of documents as high as 4-6 feet-- snuck in-- in the middle of the night.
Obama-politically- didn't want this enforced. It was set to start in 2016 taxes. LINK
It is a good thing it is not enforced at POTUS Trumps call.
This is what POTUS Trump meant when he said the democrats should own this and they (the republicans) must tread lightly because they could wear this around their necks. But Trump did the right thing and stopped the tax/mandate. Unlike... what Obama would have done; as it is well known that Obama set up ObamaCare to be a time bomb AFTER he left office.
This is the only reason I believe voters will have a little more patience on ObamaCare. It is a huge fricking mess.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:18 pm to Tiguar
I am wondering if Rubios' private dinner with POTUS tonight; is a bridge to the pubs to work on ObamaCare replacement?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:19 pm to Tiguar
quote:
He ran for president, I think.
And he was out of the race by the time I got to vote in the primary. So, what's the 'gotcha' here?
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