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re: Sheriff weighs in on ICE shooting
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:23 pm to Darnell5445
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:23 pm to Darnell5445
I believe you are an alter of questionable mental capacity.
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Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:24 pm to Darnell5445
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I don't think lethal force was justified nor do I believe that the ICE agent feared for his life.
Does a cop (or anyone) have to fear for their own life to take another's? In other words, is he obligated to suffer, say, a broken leg and some cuts/abrasions, before the situation getting to a point where he can defend himself?
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:25 pm to David_DJS
Good question, Dave. The typical standard is not only reasonable fear of death, but also “great bodily harm.”
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:26 pm to TX Tiger
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TX Tiger
y'all could go back to your echo chambers like DU or Reddit. If any of us went there and posted, we'd be perma banned in a heartbeat.
So, once again, liberals project exactly what they are guilty of doing.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:27 pm to Darnell5445
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fricked up bigly
The only one who fricked up bigly was the driver. Stop trying to disrupt ICE and this doesn’t happen, and when confronted by ICE comply and this doesn’t happen.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:27 pm to davyjones
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Good question, Dave. The typical standard is not only reasonable fear of death, but also “great bodily harm.”
I think this came up in the Rittenhouse trial - the prosecution made the argument, "sometimes you just have to take a beating" - and the defense, jury and every right-thinking American thought otherwise.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:28 pm to Darnell5445
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excuse to shoot suspects
Ah man… she fell right into his trap and accelerated a vehicle into him! How devious… of him.
You a clown, bro
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:28 pm to Darnell5445
Post less. Thank your attention to this matter.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:31 pm to Darnell5445
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nor do I believe that the ICE agent feared for his life.
You have no way of knowing this, though. You’re trying to armchair quarterback a situation that you haven’t been in.
But let’s just assume for a second that the cop didn’t “fear for his life”. Do you think use of force isn’t justified in instances where there is a chance of great bodily harm? Most statutes regarding use of force in self defense take into account the possibility of great bodily harm.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:31 pm to David_DJS
Yes they do. And even moreso when it's an immigration officer shooting a US citizen. This isn't even a cop we're talking about, their job is far less dangerous than a real police officer. I support law enforcement but I will call it out when the agent is abusing their power or needlessly killing US citizens. Here is a breakdown of ICE agent deaths in their history, as much as DHS would like you to believe they are under attack, the data doesn't back it up.
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Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:31 pm to David_DJS
Exactly. And not only that, but the reasonableness standard in a LEO situation like this is based on perspective of a law enforcement officer, not merely a civilian. And it’s specifically based on reasonable officer perception(s) in the moment, “not using hindsight” in the later assessment of the situation. Very important nuances there.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:37 pm to dbbuilder79
quote:Agreed. What's your point?
TX Tiger
y'all could go back to your echo chambers like DU or Reddit. If any of us went there and posted, we'd be perma banned in a heartbeat.
So, once again, liberals project exactly what they are guilty of doing.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:37 pm to Darnell5445
Ummm he was wearing an ICE uniform along with all of the other agents out there. Tactical gear, weapons, you name it.. and how do you know which “vehicle” that agent was in??
And just out of curiosity, why do you leftist morons believe it’s acceptable for protesters- specifically Antifa and BLM- to wear full face masks and tactical uniforms while they’re actually committing crimes against law enforcement and civilians??
And just out of curiosity, why do you leftist morons believe it’s acceptable for protesters- specifically Antifa and BLM- to wear full face masks and tactical uniforms while they’re actually committing crimes against law enforcement and civilians??
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:38 pm to Darnell5445
You left out "(D)emocrat" sheriff.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:41 pm to Darnell5445
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Yes they do.
Well, you're wrong about that.
Moreover, how would it work if you were right? We've seen cops attacked during traffic stops - fist fights - so according to you, can't shoot the a-hole. But some of them escalate and we've even seen the a-hole take the cop's gun and use it on him. So reality is, you start fighting a cop, you roll your vehicle in a cop's direction, you can rightfully get your arse shot.
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This isn't even a cop we're talking about, their job is far less dangerous than a real police officer.
What does this have to do with a right to defend yourself?
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Causes of Death Listed on ICE's Wall of Honor
So, you've given us proof that being struck by a car can prove fatal.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:42 pm to Darnell5445
You can write a dissertation on whatever you’d like on the subject of ICE and still never ever be able to change the fact she hit him with a car.
It’s impossible, don’t hurt yourself ;)
It’s impossible, don’t hurt yourself ;)
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:44 pm to Darnell5445
100% he’s blown at least 1 dude possibly 2. He’s fake.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:46 pm to Darnell5445
Have they released the toxicology reports?
It won’t change my opinion either way but if she pops dirty puffing on that weed vape while driving, on camera, I can’t wait for the show.
The communists will then have to support driving while intoxicated.
It won’t change my opinion either way but if she pops dirty puffing on that weed vape while driving, on camera, I can’t wait for the show.
The communists will then have to support driving while intoxicated.
This post was edited on 1/11/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:47 pm to David_DJS
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So, you've given us proof that being struck by a car can prove fatal.
Lol. Too stupid to realize he’s demolished his own false reality
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:54 pm to Darnell5445
Darnell5445 - please tell me why the officers wear masks? Is it because these protesters will Doxx them and put them and their families in danger if they can identify them? The answer to that is undeniably yes.
So, the issue of masked officers that your ilk and the left like to complain about is a direct response to the dangerous actions of the left.
So, the issue of masked officers that your ilk and the left like to complain about is a direct response to the dangerous actions of the left.
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