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re: So I am all about "following the science"
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:17 am to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:17 am to RoosterCogburn585
Not wearing a mask. Stay home if you’re scared of the flu...
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:19 am to FATBOY TIGER
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I used to think wearing a mask helped when I mowed my pastures, not. For big splaters, maybe. For airbourne particles, naw.
They stop tree pollen in the spring when you're doing an early mowing. The pollen is only airborne because your mower is kicking it up.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:25 am to RoosterCogburn585
They oversold the benefits of wearing a mask and now they are mad that lots of people won't get the vaccine. Well, some people are reasoning why should I inject experimental medical technology into my body when I can just keep wearing this thin little mask?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:25 am to RoosterCogburn585
There’s not a single study out there that shows mask reduce the spread of Covid or any other virus. But there are quite a few studies that show detrimental! Including increasing CO2 which directly affects mental ability, especially in kids and elderly. all we need to do you is turn your head and cover your mouth when you cough and wash your hands, Just like your mom told you. This is a particular interest me as a Hospital doctor in direct care of hospitalized COVID patients.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:28 am to AURaptor
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Nature makes the rules, and we just try to figure out what the hell those rules are. Often we do a fair job of getting most of it, but seldom do we fully grasp it all.
Never heard a more succinct definition of 'science' in layman's language.
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Often we do a fair job of getting most of it, but seldom do we fully grasp it all.
And this is the common sense understanding of science to anyone with a functioning/rational brain.
Well Done!!
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:32 am to HudsonTiger
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This is a particular interest me as a Hospital doctor in direct care of hospitalized COVID patients.
No, you aren't.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:34 am to Wtodd
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quote:"following the science"
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I'm not a follower
No thinking person who knows anything about science will ever utter that phrase - it is left the sole province of propagandists.
No more informative that "black lives matter' or 'climate change'.
all bullshite
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:40 am to Zach
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They stop tree pollen in the spring when you're doing an early mowing. The pollen is only airborne because your mower is kicking it up.
This, I know, that's why I used to wear it only when I mow.
Now I don't, either way it fricks me up.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:41 am to Zach
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They stop tree pollen in the spring when you're doing an early mowing. The pollen is only airborne because your mower is kicking it up.
Mowing large acreage in dry dusty environments kicks up a lot of particulate matter - I started wearing masks 3-4 years ago when I had to mow 3 acres of lawn/cut-over-brushland. I had COPD at the time and thought I didn't need to breath in particulates.
I did start wearing the mask when I went out in public because of the constant cough I had from the COPD - just didn't want other people in the grocery store to think I was coughing in their faces.
but that's about it. Never ever thought the mask was protecting ME from any virus - but it semi-effective in not spreading particulate matter that comes from a cough - whether from COPD, cold, or COVID. It has some benefit for protecting OTHERs, but minimal for the wearer.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:42 am
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:42 am to FATBOY TIGER
quote:Scientifically speaking. . .it's like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain-link fence
For airbourne particles, naw.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:59 am to RoosterCogburn585
I assume the masks work about 5% for people wearing them for protection and about 15% for people wearing them to prevent spread from themselves to others.
Do others on this board agree?
I am sure progressives would think those percentages are much higher- but I haven't seen evidence of that.
So whatever that means in individual behavior - so be it.
Do others on this board agree?
I am sure progressives would think those percentages are much higher- but I haven't seen evidence of that.
So whatever that means in individual behavior - so be it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:07 am to Dday63
quote:Right.
What makes you think an aromatic compound is larger than a virus particles? Your "common sense" is just dead wrong. A Virus particle is much more complex. We are comparing micro-organisms with molecules, and assuming the molecules are larger???
But to layer on a bit more truth, a surgical mask is intended not to stop outflow of viral particles, but rather the respiratory droplets carrying them.
So the fart thesis would be better analogized by employing a wet fart as the premise.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:09 am
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:12 am to jonnyanony
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We have not directly measured virus emission; nonetheless, our results strongly imply that mask wearing will reduce emission of virus-laden aerosols and droplets associated with expiratory activities, unless appreciable shedding of viable viruses on mask fibers occurs.
Nice.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:18 am to RoosterCogburn585
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So can anyone give me a specific scientific study that definitely states what benefits mask wearing has in the fight against Covid?
The closest I've found has been this.
The salient points are:
1. it states that N-95 masks are effective at stopping things as small as .3 microns
2. it states that the COVID size ranges from .06 to 1.4 microns
3. it states that at .3 microns Brownian Motion comes into play, which makes estimating capture at sizes of .3 microns and slightly smaller an issue but then an inverse begins to happen as you move away from that .3 limit
4. it hinges greatly on not only Brownian Motion but the hypothesis that COVID particles being breathed out at most often attached to larger particles which would indeed be captured by N-95 masks
In other words, it's just enough to say "maybe they work and maybe they don't" but fear mongers have clung to the former like Rose from Titanic clinging to her piece of wood paneling. The media and political classes have megaphoned this to the point where it's been distorted in the eyes of many to being (essentially) "wearing a mask is the primary way to defeat spreading COVID".
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:21 am to Roaad
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:31 am to pawpoints19
quote:here is a 10 second gif.
Here's a 5 min video which breaks down the actual science behind mask wearing:
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