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re: SOTH vote; Round 2 complete. No Speaker has been elected. Next vote = tomorrow/Thursday
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:52 am to PorkSammich
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:52 am to PorkSammich
This is going to be a complete shite show.
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:53 am to PorkSammich
McCarthy should seek the most conservative ten Dems and tell them the GOP will not place a challenger in their districts for the next election if they vote for him. This is so embarassing.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:53 am to Bard
quote:
Explain to me how they've won (other than exposing worthless RINOs).
1) Americans are convinced that the GOP is incompetent and centrists and independents see them as being hijacked by Trump supporters
2) No conservative legislation is even being debated right now
3) GOP moderates from purple districts are being forced to vote for MAGA Jim Jordan (who I think is a great Rep), essentially writing their opponents campaign ads for them.
4) Republican party looks like a cult of personality instead of a serious political party
5) This whole charade has shifted the Democrats from defending their asinine policies that led to inflation and now they are on the offensive pointing out of dysfunctional the GOP is
This was an early Christmas gift to the Democratic party and specifically Schumer and Biden, who know they will have no adversary capable of forcing their hand on anything.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:55 am to EKG
How Yesterdays non-Jordan voters voted in round two today:
Don Bacon (NE) - McCarthy
Gus Bilirakis (FL) - Jordan *No note yesterday
Vern Buchanan (FL) - Donalds *Change from Jordan vote yesterday
Ken Buck (CO) - Emmer
Lori Chavez-DeRemer (OR) - McCarthy
Anthony D'Esposito (NY) - Zeldin
Mario Díaz-Balart (FL) - Scalise
Jake Ellzey (TX) - Garcia
Drew Ferguson (GA) - Scalise *Change from Jordan vote yesterday
Andrew Garbarino (NY) - Zeldin
Carlos Giménez (FL) - McCarthy
Tony Gonzales (TX) - Scalise
Kay Granger (TX) - Scalise
John James (MI) - Miller *Change from different non-Jordan vote yesterday
Mike Kelly (PA) - Boehner
Jennifer Kiggans (VA) - McCarthy
Nick LaLota (NY) - Zeldin
Doug LaMalfa (CA) - Jordan *Flip to Jordan
Michael Lawler (NY) - McCarthy
Mariannette Miller-Meeks (IA) - Granger *Change from Jordan vote yesterday
John Rutherford (FL) - Scalise
Michael Simpson (ID) - Scalise
Victoria Spartz (IN) - Jordan *Flip to Jordan
Steve Womack (AR) - Scalise
Don Bacon (NE) - McCarthy
Gus Bilirakis (FL) - Jordan *No note yesterday
Vern Buchanan (FL) - Donalds *Change from Jordan vote yesterday
Ken Buck (CO) - Emmer
Lori Chavez-DeRemer (OR) - McCarthy
Anthony D'Esposito (NY) - Zeldin
Mario Díaz-Balart (FL) - Scalise
Jake Ellzey (TX) - Garcia
Drew Ferguson (GA) - Scalise *Change from Jordan vote yesterday
Andrew Garbarino (NY) - Zeldin
Carlos Giménez (FL) - McCarthy
Tony Gonzales (TX) - Scalise
Kay Granger (TX) - Scalise
John James (MI) - Miller *Change from different non-Jordan vote yesterday
Mike Kelly (PA) - Boehner
Jennifer Kiggans (VA) - McCarthy
Nick LaLota (NY) - Zeldin
Doug LaMalfa (CA) - Jordan *Flip to Jordan
Michael Lawler (NY) - McCarthy
Mariannette Miller-Meeks (IA) - Granger *Change from Jordan vote yesterday
John Rutherford (FL) - Scalise
Michael Simpson (ID) - Scalise
Victoria Spartz (IN) - Jordan *Flip to Jordan
Steve Womack (AR) - Scalise
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:57 am to SlimTigerSlap
quote:
Make up your mind dude.
I've been completely consistent. That you don't seem smart enough to grasp that isn't a "me" problem, it's a "you" problem.
quote:
Dems didn't do either of the scenarios you posted. They did what they always do.
Exactly what did they do? Have the balls to be specific in your statements instead of tossing around vague generalities.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:57 am to EKG
Jeffries should do the same....he should find the mostl vulnerable five Republican reps and give them something major to vote for him. Would be the ultimate bitch slap.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:57 am to EKG
Damn, can’t believe ol Gym isn’t uniting the people, who could’ve seen this coming
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:58 am to NawlinsTiger9
Jeffries 213
Jordan 198
Scalise 7
McCarty 5
Others 10
Jordan 198
Scalise 7
McCarty 5
Others 10
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:58 am to EKG
quote:
Steve Womack (AK) - Scalise[/
I thought Alaska only had 1 rep and she was a DEM.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:59 am to EKG
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:00 pm to lsursb
quote:.quote:
Steve Womack (AK) - Scalise[/
I thought Alaska only had 1 rep and she was a DEM.
You’re correct
Should be Arkansas.
Corrected.
*Aggie education
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:01 pm to lsursb
Apparently, Jordan made a deal with McCarthy to strip most of Scalise's backers from their committees as well as the original group of 8 and word of this leaked out.
NBC News confirms: Before Jim Jordan's first defeat, the wife of Republican Rep. Don Bacon received anonymous messages warning him to back Jordan's speakership bid or risk being ousted.
One message: "Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. What a disappoint [sic] and failure he is."
Another: "Why is your husband causing chaos by not supporting Jim Jordan? I thought he was a team player."
@NBCNews
Kyle Griffin
NBC News confirms: Before Jim Jordan's first defeat, the wife of Republican Rep. Don Bacon received anonymous messages warning him to back Jordan's speakership bid or risk being ousted.
One message: "Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. What a disappoint [sic] and failure he is."
Another: "Why is your husband causing chaos by not supporting Jim Jordan? I thought he was a team player."
@NBCNews
Kyle Griffin
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:01 pm to MrLSU
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Apparently, Jordan made a deal with McCarthy to strip most of Scalise's backers from their committees as well as the original group of 8 and word of this leaked out.
Actual deal or shite leaked by McCarthy to try and force his way back in?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:02 pm to MrLSU
quote:
Apparently, Jordan made a deal with McCarthy to strip most of Scalise's backers from their committees as well as the original group of 8 and word of this leaked out.
shite show...
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:04 pm to MrLSU
quote:
Apparently, Jordan made a deal with McCarthy to strip most of Scalise's backers from their committees as well as the original group of 8 and word of this leaked out.
I find that hard to believe. Not saying it's wrong just hard to believe that he would strip the House Majority Leader's supporters from their committee assignments seems absurd.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:06 pm to LSUfanNkaty
Round Two Totals
Jordan (R) 199 *1 vote fewer than yesterday’s 200
Jeffries (D) 212
Others 22
Present 0
Jordan (R) 199 *1 vote fewer than yesterday’s 200
Jeffries (D) 212
Others 22
Present 0
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:06 pm to MFn GIMP
quote:
I find that hard to believe. Not saying it's wrong just hard to believe that he would strip the House Majority Leader's supporters from their committee assignments seems absurd.
Especially considering he had been courting Scalise to try and get him and his supporters onboard with this.
McCarthy is a fricking snake and no one should trust him as far as they can throw him.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:06 pm to MFn GIMP
Rep Mace who Scalise raised money for, campaigned for, and actually got elected was the one pushing the Scalise is a racist narrative thanks to McCarthy offering her a better committee assignment. She is definitely a sleaze ball.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:07 pm to YouKnowImRight
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1) Americans are convinced that the GOP is incompetent and centrists and independents see them as being hijacked by Trump supporters
Good. They are. Exposing that incompetence is part of why I supported what Gaetz has done. Maybe this will convince some of the party members to get their heads out of their asses and actually try reigning in spending rather than playing the "go along to get along" game.
If they party falls because of accountability exposing their dysfunction, so be it.
quote:
2) No conservative legislation is even being debated right now
There wasn't a whole lot of it being debated anyway. Look at the shitty CR McCarthy, Graves, etc. pushed at the beginning of the summer. Holding spending to FY2022 levels? Suspending the debt ceiling for two years? Are you fricking kidding me?? Where's the conservatism in being more Democrats than Democrats?
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3) GOP moderates from purple districts are being forced to vote for MAGA Jim Jordan (who I think is a great Rep), essentially writing their opponents campaign ads for them.
Our Founding Fathers put up far more than their jobs, they put their own lives and the lives of their families on the line to found this country. I'm supposed to feel sorry for Reps who put their personal political aspirations ahead of the good of the party or the country? frick 'em.
We need some massive fiscal constraint and that's going to take the balls of being willing to risk not being re-elected. If they can't handle a SOH vote, they certainly won't be able to handle what will come next.
quote:
4) Republican party looks like a cult of personality instead of a serious political party
That's really just repeating the latter half of Point 1.
quote:
5) This whole charade has shifted the Democrats from defending their asinine policies that led to inflation and now they are on the offensive pointing out of dysfunctional the GOP is
Agreed. See my response to your first point.
Solid rebuttal.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:09 pm to MrLSU
quote:
Apparently, Jordan made a deal with McCarthy to strip most of Scalise's backers from their committees as well as the original group of 8 and word of this leaked out.
NBC News confirms: Before Jim Jordan's first defeat, the wife of Republican Rep. Don Bacon received anonymous messages warning him to back Jordan's speakership bid or risk being ousted.
One message: "Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. What a disappoint [sic] and failure he is."
Another: "Why is your husband causing chaos by not supporting Jim Jordan? I thought he was a team player."
@NBCNews
Kyle Griffin
Anonymous? That could have come from a Democrat for all anyone knows.
The GOP AND MAGA are TERRIBLE at politics
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