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re: Suspect arrested in in Mail bombings
Posted on 10/26/18 at 5:12 pm to VOR
Posted on 10/26/18 at 5:12 pm to VOR
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The “explosive material, if I heard correctly, basically was gunpowder.I haven’t had the chance,!personally, to examine the devices. Just how long and how far are you guys willing to make your specious and foolish argument, in the face of the evidence and the information released by the authorities? Oh yeah, you guys are willing to believe that all of law enforcement is part of a Democratic conspiracy. I know you think that absolves you all of addressing facts, but it doesn’t work that way.
I do not know what is funnier that the dems are upset that no one outside of their party wants to rally behind this or that they are upset because no sympathy is being given.
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Posted on 10/26/18 at 6:25 pm to sms151t
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They never said explosive material. They called it “thermal” I believe.
The exact description I heard from a FBI spokesman was "The devices contained energetic material that under the right conditions could cause harm to human beings."
So that could be anything from lithium batteries, to adhesive residue, or a round about way of saying there were no actural explosives without saying there were no actual explosives.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:18 pm to EA6B
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or a round about way of saying there were no actural explosives without saying there were no actual explosives.
The resistance to saying there was no explosive will continue.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:26 pm to EA6B
Been gone most of the day so I don't know if it's been addressed or not.
This guy was just some loon that basically lived out of his van?
If so, how does essentially a homeless guy get the addresses of previous presidents, Soros, and the top democratic party leaders?
I don't have a president phone book
This guy was just some loon that basically lived out of his van?
If so, how does essentially a homeless guy get the addresses of previous presidents, Soros, and the top democratic party leaders?
I don't have a president phone book
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:29 pm to themunch
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The resistance to saying there was no explosive will continue.
14 out of 14 or whatever the number is is pretty strong evidence of the "explosiveness" of the material, but democrats don't know anything about basic arithmetic much less statistics
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:36 pm to Deactived
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If so, how does essentially a homeless guy get the addresses of previous presidents, Soros, and the top democratic party leaders?
According to info released by the FBI, the package to Soros was hand delivered not dent by mail, so he drove that van to NJ found Soros's house dropped of the package and drove back to Florida. I have not tried yet, but I doubt I if can locate Soros house sitting in front of a computer with internet access.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:36 pm to tigerinDC09
Found on Gateway Pundit:
(Sayoc's business partner was a US Marine explosives "Response Incident" specialist)
Here's the link, though I'm not sure it will take you directly to the above comment by ThinkPiece:
LINK
(Sayoc's business partner was a US Marine explosives "Response Incident" specialist)
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Update: So Sayoc was a promoter for adult entertainment. Well that probably answers one of my earlier questions on connections between Sayoc and one Justin Humberger.
There is a Justin Humberger listed on Florida's Division of Corporation website as a registered agent (Title AMBR) for a BJ'S VEGAS STYLE ENTERTAINMENT, LLC.
Earlier Post:
Here's something interesting.
Per Florida's Division of Corporation website, there are two LLCs registered under Cesar Altier Sayoc. One of the LLCs is called VER TECH AG, L.L.C. registered 7/10/2018 and is Active. The second 'Title MGR' name listed on this LLC registration is a Justin Humberger with a Rockledge FL address. Florida Voter Recorder's website shows there is a Justin Henry Humberger (Age 29) registered at that same Rockledge FL address.
Basic online searches show there is a Justin Henry Humberger (also age 29) living in Rockledge FL who lists his previous employment as "Chemical Biological Incident Response Force".
A basic search of Chemical Biological Incident Response Force shows it is a unit of the US Marine Corps. Where it states, "[CBIRF is] responsible for countering the effects of a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive incident...."
So the questions are:
1.) Is the Justin Humberger who is listed as co-Title MGR to VER TECH AG, L.L.C. along with Cesar Sayoc the same Justin Humberger who is also listed online as having been employed by US Marine Unit Chemical Biological Incident Response Force?
2.) If they are the same Justin Humberger, what exactly are his and Sayoc connections? How do they know each other? How did they become registered business partners just this July 2018? Why would a 29 year-old ex-marine with military high-yield explosive training get involved (become a business partner) with Cesar Sayoc who has a long criminal background, to include copper pipe thief and terroristic threats?
Patsy? Useful idiot? Easy mark (tool) given Sayoc's criminal background, and his visible support (MAGA-themed sticker-plastered van) for Trump?
Here's the link, though I'm not sure it will take you directly to the above comment by ThinkPiece:
LINK
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:39 pm to EA6B
Gotcha
Yea I can't find where all the current presidents live either. Hmm
Yea I can't find where all the current presidents live either. Hmm
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:49 pm to Deactived
I’ve been out too and have some questions.
Did anyone this guy knows, like close friend or family, corroborate that he’s been like this for awhile, or that he’s been having his van decked out in trump paraphernalia for awhile now?
Is anyone legit questioning how he hand delivered some of these, or why he would even do that? If he knew where to send it, why drive all the way there to do it instead of mailing it like all the others?
Has anyone seen the van before? It’s got crosshairs on people and he just drives it around in public? There’s a guy in BR that covered his truck in trump stickers, and he made tigerdroppings. Did anyone else see this van until recently?
Did anyone this guy knows, like close friend or family, corroborate that he’s been like this for awhile, or that he’s been having his van decked out in trump paraphernalia for awhile now?
Is anyone legit questioning how he hand delivered some of these, or why he would even do that? If he knew where to send it, why drive all the way there to do it instead of mailing it like all the others?
Has anyone seen the van before? It’s got crosshairs on people and he just drives it around in public? There’s a guy in BR that covered his truck in trump stickers, and he made tigerdroppings. Did anyone else see this van until recently?
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:54 pm to EA6B
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The exact description I heard from a FBI spokesman was "The devices contained energetic material that under the right conditions could cause harm to human beings."
So could my car when driving it, my computer when using it, and my house when using the gas heat during the winter. That is some expert opinion there.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:58 pm to TideWarrior
He wanted to say there's no chance these things were blowing up but he can't say that.
Instead he basically said if you put a bomb on this fake bomb and ignited it, it would do something
Instead he basically said if you put a bomb on this fake bomb and ignited it, it would do something
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:11 pm to Deactived
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"The devices contained energetic material that under the right conditions could cause harm to human beings."
All material on earth is "energetic" and could hurt people "under the right conditions." The battery in my iPhone could explode putting me in the hospital, but it doesn't make it a "bomb." The metal fence outside my house could "become energized" by a downed power line and kill me "under the right conditions." Doesn't make my fence a bomb.
Now, this doesn't excuse this guy's actions - he's going to spend years in prison and rightly so. But I just find the wording of the FBI's statement laughable. If they were dummy bombs, just say it. The guy committed crimes in either case.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:21 pm to AUstar
So I guess the energetic part rules out water. Which kills a lot of people each year.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:29 pm to omegaman66
For the sake of accuracy here is the actual press release from FBI/ director Wray.
LINK
"Law enforcement officials confirmed that 13 total suspicious packages were sent over the past week. Each of the packages contained six inches of PVC pipe, a small clock battery, wiring and “energetic material” that could be potentially explosive if exposed to heat, shock or friction, Wray said. "
LINK
"Law enforcement officials confirmed that 13 total suspicious packages were sent over the past week. Each of the packages contained six inches of PVC pipe, a small clock battery, wiring and “energetic material” that could be potentially explosive if exposed to heat, shock or friction, Wray said. "
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:33 pm to AUstar
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Contained energetic material
Placed in PVC pipe with no timers? This is not a bomb but a fake
Other material was fake white powder... probably Talcum or baby powder
His lawyer will defend him as there is no intent to harm only to frighten .... no transport of bombs across state lines BS.....
Not any more dangerous than putting a brown bag full of dog crap and lighting it on someone’s porch.....in fact that Halloween trick is more dangerous then fake bombs and fake powder....
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:48 pm to sms151t
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They never said explosive material. They called it “thermal” I believe.
Probably referring specifically to the dildo thingy.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 11:52 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Leftists were violent well before Trump came along.
Prior to Trump, leftists were burning cities and killing cops because Obama's son, BLM, etc. That is just one of MANY examples I can give. If I put up a chart, the left would dominate violent acts. It isn't even close, nor should it be a debate to anyone with a brain.
Pure Fantasy. I tell you what why don't we take the number of leftist that you're talking about and compare it to the number of right-wing people there were eager to go up to the Middle East to kill people.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:06 am to Ebbandflow
quote:people who commit actual acts of violence, and those who publicly call for it
why don't we take the number of leftist that you're talking about
vs.
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the number of right-wing people there were eager to go up to the Middle East to kill people.
yeah, those are two comparable groups. Roy talking shite with his beer buddies is right up there with a sniper shooting cops in a public square. And if this guy is an example of a "right wing terrorist," why was he resourceful enough to find addresses of former presidents and Soros, but too retarded to build a bomb that had any chance of working?
This guy doesn't even qualify as a terrorist. He's a prankster.
Posted on 10/27/18 at 7:25 am to Logician
closest friend is Alex Jones blow up doll
Posted on 10/27/18 at 7:31 am to tigerinDC09
fricking rightwing loser. Lock his arse up and never let him see the light of day again. And no way he made all those pipe bombs by himself living out of a van. They need to get the other pieces of shite involved too.
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 7:33 am
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