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re: Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?

Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22967 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:06 pm to
Disagree. Taking away the right to murder has been pretty positive for society.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:06 pm to
Okay since your laughing at the question what is your answer? Not specific to any right, are taking rights away from people generally good or bad?
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:07 pm to
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It is your responsibility to communicate what you want to say, so do it.

I did, it’s a pretty simple question.

Is society better when all people have more rights or less rights?
Posted by RedDirtSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
699 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:08 pm to
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Giving people less rights is always bad, even if those rights sometimes lead to people doing bad things, overall less rights = worse society


This is correct but, there are always levels to it. Taking away someone’s right to life would have to be the worse, correct?
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14275 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:10 pm to
Disagree.

Taking away the right to own other people made society better.

Taking away the right to use child labor made society better

Taking away the right to kill unborn children will make society better


Some rights being taken away are good. But there are rights that should not be taken away. Many are in the constitution
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:11 pm to
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Taking away someone’s right to life would have to be the worse, correct?

On the surface of that statement yes. How do you feel about the death penalty?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:13 pm to
Mostly against it, but are you trying to equate an innocent baby to a convicted killer? Yikes.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22387 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:14 pm to
Disagree.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:14 pm to
It depends, solely, on the morality of said “rights”. Recent example: allowing people to OD on drugs. God gives us all free will, in this vapor of a life. It’s your God-given right. But, if WE allow it, then are we our brother’s keeper? WE create laws, that limit our rights to destroy another’s pursuit of happiness. When someone’s pursuit of happiness interferes with that of another’s- who’s pursuit does not interfere with that of another’s- then the law should be clear and accepted by all who pursue happiness. There is an irrefutable knowledge of good and evil, that we are in fact born with. Do what you do- but watch my shoes.
Posted by texastornado
Texarkana
Member since Jun 2022
135 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:15 pm to
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Mostly against it, but are you trying to equate an innocent baby to a convicted killer? Yikes.

Their minds work in really depraved ways when they actually use it
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:15 pm
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12499 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:15 pm to
You pose this question as if it were not loaded.

In taking away the right to an abortion, you are protecting/preserving the rights and life of someone else, a child.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:15 pm to
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but are you trying to equate an innocent baby to a convicted killer? Yikes.

No, I haven’t mentioned that at all
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17597 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:17 pm to
Todays decision gave rights back to people

People can use their votes instead of the SCOTUS pretending abortion is in the constitution
Posted by SECFan413
Cookeville,TN
Member since Jan 2009
1017 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:18 pm to
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The premise is simple. Giving people less rights is always bad, even if those rights sometimes lead to people doing bad things, overall less rights = worse society


This is a false premise. In order to give a right you have to take a right, so it’s essentially a zero sum game.

I guess you could argue about natural rights and what all those wouid include, but you’ll never get consensus so it’s pointless.
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
2282 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:18 pm to
Define “rights” and I’ll answer honestly.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:18 pm to
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You pose this question as if it were not loaded.

In taking away the right to an abortion, you are protecting/preserving the rights and life of someone else, a child.


It’s the other way around. You feel defensive because your overall belief that individuals have a right to the freedom of choice goes against your belief on the hot issue of the day.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:19 pm to
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You feel defensive because your overall belief that individuals have a right to the freedom of choice goes against your belief on the hot issue of the day.


It’s too late in the night to be just making shite up.
Posted by RedDirtSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
699 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:21 pm to
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On the surface of that statement yes. How do you feel about the death penalty?


I’m no longer a supporter of the death penalty. Read too many cases that have been overturned. If it was a clear and cut case of guilty I would support it but I just don’t have enough faith in people to do the right thing.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:23 pm to
I’m just looking to have a good debate/conversation I’m not saying able is wrong so talk to me.

My premise is that our federal government having orders in place they give people more freedoms is a good thing even if some people use those freedoms for bad things.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:24 pm to
Great. Give people the freedom to steal and murder.

Moar freedom is good after all.

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