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Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by John Gotti
Vestavia HIlls, AL
Member since Jul 2013
3497 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:07 pm to
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So in a way he is an independent contractor/Pastor that just preaches there a lot??



never thought about it that way but I guess you could say that.

I'm indifferent about the guy but these attacks on him (and other mega church pastors) are usually framed to make it look like they are just skimming from the offering plate to pad their pockets. Not saying he doesn't do that as well but he's sold over 100M books and that's where his wealth comes from, so taxing his church wouldn't hurt him.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37615 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:17 pm to
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Osteen takes $0 salary from his church.
Still over paid given the nonsense he preaches.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:23 pm to
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Not saying he doesn't do that as well but he's sold over 100M books and that's where his wealth comes from, so taxing his church wouldn't hurt him.


Think/know if taxes are paid on those books sales by both the Pastor and all other parties involved with making the book? Or are they able to piggy back somehow on the no tax law the actual Church itself?

(Random thought...would be interesting to see the response from these lefties that push this if you tell/remind them mosques/synagogues would be wrapped up in this too)
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86721 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Then perhaps the multi millionaire pastors should cough it up.



So a couple hundred people can just cover it for the 380,000 houses of worship in America?

People do realize the percentage of pastors making bank and flying on jets is minuscule and the number living in builder grade houses and driving used cars is the overwhelming majority?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4487 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:01 pm to
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So a couple hundred people can just cover it for the 380,000 houses of worship in America?

People do realize the percentage of pastors making bank and flying on jets is minuscule and the number living in builder grade houses and driving used cars is the overwhelming majority?


Not sure how it's relevant. Time for them to pay taxes like everyone else. It's coming.


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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127260 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Time for them to pay taxes like everyone else. It's coming.


For who to pay taxes? The multi-millionaire pastors are already paying taxes. You are advocating for all not-for-profits becoming taxable entities, I assume.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86721 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Not sure how it's relevant. Time for them to pay taxes like everyone else. It's coming.



Because it's in direct response to comments made in this thread, of course
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51218 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:11 pm to
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You are advocating for all not-for-profits becoming taxable entities, I assume.
Any entity using public infrastructure that everyone is taxed to support should pay property taxes to support the maintenance of the infrastructure.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127260 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:16 pm to
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Any entity using public infrastructure that everyone is taxed to support should pay property taxes to support the maintenance of the infrastructure.


This is the kind of mumbo jumbo that I come to this board for.
Posted by RBTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
9068 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:25 pm to
Cesspool Twitter
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10270 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:30 pm to




I have done finance committee work with churches in Louisana and Texas and the pastors and paid staff do have w-2s reported to the fed and they also file tax returns. They do not pay much in the way of taxes on 40,000 a year, and they have to keep logs of vehicle use that is compensated just like any for profit company.

For some reason, at the end of the year there is never any money left over. Could it be the congregation gives enough to cover expenses only.
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:32 pm to
Trying to eliminate any perceived threat. They getting nervous that it's all being unmasked.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18464 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:42 pm to
Stop foundations, stop allowing individuals to get a tax break for giving to churches, Mosques, etc.

When Churches participate in money making endeavors, that part should be taxed.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87391 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:50 pm to
Lol
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51218 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:50 pm to
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This is the kind of mumbo jumbo that I come to this board for.
This is the kind of knee jerk response that this board is chock full of, rather than counter with a good explanation of why taxing real property is a bad thing for the public. The only thing you've offered so far is that they can't afford it. I counter that they can, especially if they are creating retail bookstores, daycare centers, private schools, mega-production centers, video streaming, LED video walls, etc.., etc.., etc..
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
16363 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:51 pm to
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When Churches participate in money making endeavors, that part should be taxed.


They are taxed on money making endeavors that don't further their exempt purpose. It's called UBIT
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9180 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:57 pm to
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When Churches participate in money making endeavors, that part should be taxed.


What endeavors exactly?

Bake Sales?

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87391 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:58 pm to
How many churches are money generating tax dodging entities in your world?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51218 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 4:08 pm to
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How many churches are money generating tax dodging entities in your world?
All that don't pay property taxes of some amount. We all pay property taxes to support the building and maintenance of bridges, roads, access right-of-ways, power structure, water and sewer, police and fire protection, etc.

Churches rest on the backs of all taxpayers, not just those who participate in the church. The church doesn't exist in a vacuum. Nobody is arguing against the good of a church. Only that churches benefit unfairly at the expense of everyone by reaping the benefits of the infrastructure that taxes support without supporting the infrastructure itself.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87391 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 4:25 pm to
Okay so tell me the tax structure sp specific to churches
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