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Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:52 am to Ace Midnight
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This is where we're at. Either all of it is okay, or none of it is.
Since no human is perfect, no statues of humans. Just rainbows and unicorns allowed. They're perfect.
Naming buildings and streets after people? Again, no human is perfect, so "un" name all the buildings and streets and give them functional or descriptive names that assist in finding them or understanding their function.
There was a reddit thread where somebody on the left brought up MLK’s “troubling” views on homosexuality and if he should stay revered.
People were very quick to say “he was a product of his time, and he shouldn’t be held to today’s standards.”
That’s the ultimate end to the argument. When somebody will justify one behavior under their worldview then they can’t turn around and say the argument for the other side is invalid.
I always take it to the old adage. A man and a woman hit it off at the bar. He asks if she would sleep with him for $5000? She says “of course.” Then he says “would you do it for $200?”
She says “what kind of woman do you think I am?”
“We’ve already agreed to what kind of woman you are ma’am. Now we’re just haggling over the price. “
You’ve already established what’s ok. Now we’re just arguing over whether it’s ok for the other side.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 9:03 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:09 am to jcaz
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this just like the cool thing to do now? Look around for traces of statues, memorials, buildings that bear the namesake of white people who lived between 1700 and 1960?
Pretty much. Sully statue has been on campus for 100 years.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:09 am to demtigers73
Sully statue is outside the Academic Building. Pretty sure Mond has never seen it.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:11 am to Ace Midnight
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This is where we're at. Either all of it is okay, or none of it is.
That's not how this will work with the left.
The statues of Marxists are just fine. Anyone that committed genocide on behalf of their cause is to be lauded.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:14 am to demtigers73
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Texas A&M quarterback Kellen Mond, 'Let's not forget Sully'
They should replace it with a statue of Mond, and the inscription should read "Kellen Mond: One of the most overrated motherfricking primadonas to ever play for Texas A&M."
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:30 am to demtigers73
If they rename Sul Ross in Alpine, I might start a riot out there.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:31 am to 3nOut
quote:Insane.
There was a reddit thread where somebody on the left brought up MLK’s “troubling” views on homosexuality and if he should stay revered.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:31 am to demtigers73
I bet Mond never spent one second until recently contemplating anything about that statue.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:34 am to Ace Midnight
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Naming buildings and streets after people? Again, no human is perfect, so "un" name all the buildings and streets and give them functional or descriptive names that assist in finding them or understanding their function.
Best part about naming streets after people? You instantly know where the bad part of town is by finding MLK Blvd.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:35 am to Revelator
I can’t speak for that statue in particular, but he’s become quite the activist of late.
A big part of it is his age.
His Twitter feed is very race focused.
Doesn’t help that people are adding fuel to his fire by telling him to “Shut up, and do a better job throwing the football.”
I think they’ve poked a stick at a sleeping bear.
Interestingly enough—not unlike Kaep—his mother is white, and his father is black.
A big part of it is his age.
His Twitter feed is very race focused.
Doesn’t help that people are adding fuel to his fire by telling him to “Shut up, and do a better job throwing the football.”
I think they’ve poked a stick at a sleeping bear.
Interestingly enough—not unlike Kaep—his mother is white, and his father is black.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:38 am to demtigers73
You know how I know TAMU is going to suck this year? 
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:40 am to tigerfan4120
At this rate, we’ll be lucky if anyone actually plays.
So it could be a moot point!
So it could be a moot point!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:55 am to 3nOut
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There was a reddit thread where somebody on the left brought up MLK’s “troubling” views on homosexuality and if he should stay revered. People were very quick to say “he was a product of his time, and he shouldn’t be held to today’s standards.”
The old double standard...ridiculous stuff.
Gandhi doesn’t get that same pass, even though his concepts of non-violent protests and civil disobedience were utilized by MLK.
FWIW, I believe both can be celebrated in spite of their past simply because their positive impact on society seems to largely outweigh any “social sins” that may have been committed by them.
I stated the same for the PGT Beauregard. His contribution (Nola.com no less):
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Largely forgotten, though, is that Beauregard also was an early proponent of equal rights in Louisiana, serving as the outspoken leader of the short-lived and ultimately failed unification movement. The movement was a coalition made up of prominent white and black New Orleanians that called for integrated schools, public places and transportation and voting rights for black men, two years before Congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1875 and nearly a century before the enactment of major civil rights legislation in the 20th century. Beauregard was the group's chairman.
He was also from the metro area of Nola.
But...tear it down!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:01 am to demtigers73
"In my opinion I'm the best [QB in the SEC]. That's not just because I'm a confident person. I actually believe that." - Kellen Mond, 7/19
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:02 am to demtigers73
If Mond really feels this way, he should turn in his Aggie Ring, literally, since Ross was the one responsible for his ring being the way it is, among other things.
I guess Prairie View is "complicit in racism" as well, since Ross was responsible for its creation and for keeping it from being torn down.
I guess Prairie View is "complicit in racism" as well, since Ross was responsible for its creation and for keeping it from being torn down.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Mind needs to stay. He is a terrible qb
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:35 am to BamaFan365
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Did he not tour campus before accepting his offer?
What kind of QB would choose a school with such a racist statue????!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:37 am to demtigers73
I wish they'd start kicking these kids out of school instead of placating to them because it will only make them push the limits of what they can demand.
When did people forget how to adult?
When did people forget how to adult?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:38 am to Ace Midnight
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This is where we're at. Either all of it is okay, or none of it is.
Since no human is perfect, no statues of humans. Just rainbows and unicorns allowed. They're perfect.
Naming buildings and streets after people? Again, no human is perfect, so "un" name all the buildings and streets and give them functional or descriptive names that assist in finding them or understanding their function.
And - with that - the problem is solved. If ANY statue of a human remains, or ANY building/street remains named after a human being, I'm offended by that. I'm offended by imperfection.
Or the adults in the room could tell the children to shut up. I dont like statues of union general, the ones that invaded my homeland and slaughtered my outgunned ancestors...but I realize I have a bias and that those statues and monuments mean positive things to others. They didnt build them to taunt me but to remember the flawed men who did great things. If we are going to have a civilized society, adults are going to have to act like adults and children are going to have to learn their place till they are old and mature enough to join the adults.
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