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Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25369 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:44 pm to
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WaWaWeeWa


Can you guys not contain your scare tactics to your stickied thread

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the inability to understand statistics on this board is embarrassing


I think pretty much everyone has figured out that the statistics are crap and we are at this point just flinging poo at the wall to see what sticks.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95104 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:52 pm to
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Yea that’s the current rate because we curbed the infection. It’s not the infection fatality rate. In other words, he makes it sound like you have a 0.01% chance of dying if you get infected.


So, what is your chance of dying if you get infected and are 18 to 45?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:54 pm to
Probably the best piece I've read to date on this situation
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21535 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Yea that’s the current rate because we curbed the infection. It’s not the infection fatality rate. In other words, he makes it sound like you have a 0.01% chance of dying if you get infected. That’s not what his statistic is saying, but I’m sure that’s not how it will be interpreted here.


Well, thats a possibility, but you’re making a speculative claim yourself. We do NOT know that the quarantine efforts were effective and/or to what degree. But we can certainly compare stats (as non-standardized as they are) between areas that quarantined and those that didn’t, which seems to indicate that for various possible reasons, it didn’t seem to make that much difference.

Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Yea that’s the current rate because we curbed the infection. It’s not the infection fatality rate. In other words, he makes it sound like you have a 0.01% chance of dying if you get infected. That’s not what his statistic is saying, but I’m sure that’s not how it will be interpreted here


Are you proposing a lockdown till a vaccine is created and can be massively distributed?
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14880 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:20 pm to
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So, what is your chance of dying if you get infected and are 18 to 45



Pretty much a big fat zero..
unless you are a big fat zero.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7521 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 7:41 pm to
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But the inability to understand statistics on this board is embarrassing

My dad taught me that you've lost the debate once you start throwing out insults. As far as the debate itself, I find his case more covincing than yours.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67642 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 7:46 pm to
But but but, the party of science
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2892 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:42 am to
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Wow you TDS folks don’t to humor and sarcasm do you? Sad!


I voted for Trump and plan to vote for him again. How exactly do I have TDS?

What’s sad is that you assume everyone that disagrees with you is against Trump or has “TDS”. You cannot get more brainwashed partisan than that.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:25 am to
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There were deaths due to COVID19 outside of hospitals that went uncounted so even if they are being overzealous its probably a wash anyway.


So the fact that people are lying on purpose to jack up the virus numbers is covered by the fact that they probably don't know what they are talking about at all?

Got it

Science!
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:52 am to
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The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group — older people and others with underlying conditions — is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from COVID-19.
^^THIS is a giant step toward segragation, and the denial of Constitutional rights based on an age discrimination. That is ALL it is. (well, maybe a hint of impending Euthanasia tossed in there)

1) He equates "older people" with "ones with underlying conditions" - this is intellectually dishonest (at best - idiologically murderous at worst)

2) There are 50,000,000 Americans over the age of 70. 40,000 or 100,000 flu-like deaths is not grounds to separate Seniors from their Condtitutional rights.

3) These 50,000,000 Americans are the most active voting group, BY FAR. Want to KILL Trump's chances in November? Easy. Disenfranchise the over-70's... piss THEM off.

4) And if pissing them off isn't enough, then give Chuckie and Nancy a free pass to Force Mail-In voting for Seniors... to PROTECT them. What could possibly go wrong with that????



This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 3:56 am
Posted by setinways
Member since Apr 2020
68 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:25 am to
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Yea that’s the current rate because we curbed the infection. It’s not the infection fatality rate. In other words, he makes it sound like you have a 0.01% chance of dying if you get infected. That’s not what his statistic is saying, but I’m sure that’s not how it will be interpreted here. 

What he is saying is, up until this point that was your chance of dying. It doesn’t say anything about your chances going forward.


Wtf are u saying? I mean it's very likely that was/will be are pretty close. Even if it doubles in the future (which is very improbable) ur looking at .02%? I'll take my chances. I'm much more likely to die from car crash, cancer, etc than this right now. What a goofball statement.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:59 am to
What most people keep forgetting: The purpose of the lockdown was to slow the spread of the virus so that the hospitals and health care workers could handle the influx and get prepared for the long haul.

That. Has. Happened.

The purpose of the slow reopening is to allow businesses to rev back up based upon their state’s guidelines, which are based upon federal recommendations. No state should continue its current stay-at-home order. Rather, each should switch to an emphasis upon social distancing and sanitary practices. Vulnerable people should continue to practice the precautions they’ve been following.

It’s time to get back to work.
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