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Posted on 9/23/25 at 7:27 pm to Big4SALTbro
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First time in 30 years lol the far left has always been more violent
In general, but not in the US until this century.
Of course, the reason is that McCarthy and company exterminated them.
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 9/23/25 at 7:41 pm to SPEEDY
right?
Posted on 9/23/25 at 7:59 pm to Big4SALTbro
quote:9/11 ?
I don’t recall much violence politically from 2000-2015
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:01 pm to sledgehammer
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It’s not even close. It’s easy to say the left doesn’t commit violence when you don’t count it in the statistics.
It's even easier when you continue to completely ignore the hard facts that are presented to you. And that's exactly what they're going to do. And they'll continue the narrative that conservative America is the problem.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:01 pm to OWLFAN86
I was thinking domestic side not Muslims but fair 9/11 could be classified as left wing violence
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:02 pm to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Considering all the random bullshite they label as "right wing" violence to pad the numbers, then the left's numbers must be skyrocketing for them to admit this.
one of the stats they use is the ADL figures and the ADL counts Antifa and other anarchists as right wing
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:02 pm to Big4SALTbro
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but fair 9/11 could be classified as left wing violence
islamic / muslims, you're describing as left wing?
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:03 pm to OWLFAN86
Yes since that is who supports them and wants them here.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:07 pm to Big4SALTbro
OK
they intended to promote Islamic and Muslim values
I think that's separate from the idiotic policy that let them into the country
Although you can call the politicians left, agreed
but the terrorists and the violence?
But hey, defend your position despite the evidence /history
they intended to promote Islamic and Muslim values
I think that's separate from the idiotic policy that let them into the country
Although you can call the politicians left, agreed
but the terrorists and the violence?
But hey, defend your position despite the evidence /history
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:07 pm to OWLFAN86
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islamic / muslims, you're describing as left wing?
they want to destroy America and the left wants to destroy America. I know it sounds like strange bedfellows, but just look at all the white waspy and japs in the northeast wearing a keffiyea.
enemy of my enemy and what not.
but I think Islam has it's very own category.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:09 pm to Rebel
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but I think Islam has it's very own category.
Fair enough I mean it was domestic terrorism, although committed by foreign nationals but I'll concede that it is a Gray area
but to call it left-wing?
I mean I don't consider Muslims,, liberals
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:10 pm to Big4SALTbro
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was far right wing violence from what I recall of it.
It was in retaliation to ruby ridge and Waco. Also from civilian casualties in foreign wars.
The left and right can be anti government. I don’t know what really made him far right.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:15 pm to OWLFAN86
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I mean I don't consider Muslims,, liberals
go outside and yell, FREE FREE PALESTINE and see who wants to play with you.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:26 pm to Rebel
quote:well that would be white liberal women, probably
go outside and yell, FREE FREE PALESTINE and see who wants to play with you.
they aren't the muslims beheading people
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:27 pm to Roaad
From what I’ve read, the Anti Defamation League would list any type of political attack as right wing. There we like 3 categories for listing right wing attacks and one for left wing. The one for left wing mostly dealt with environmental shite. That why the right wing number was always so much higher.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:31 pm to OWLFAN86
There are some things they share in common like the liberating of the oppressed.
And the left fights for them because they see it more as fighting for the oppressed and against racism vs fighting for Islam. Marx viewed religion as a way to control the poor and oppressed.
And the left fights for them because they see it more as fighting for the oppressed and against racism vs fighting for Islam. Marx viewed religion as a way to control the poor and oppressed.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:37 pm to Roaad
For the 1st time in 30 years, we can’t even skew the data to pretend the right is more violent than the left.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:41 pm to Roaad
As a long time Atlantic subscriber (I know, don't criticize too much) this is a shocking event. However the text of the article underplays it compared to the headline. There will be a data set released by the Center for international and strategic studies that was used for this article and that would be interesting. It also narrowly defined attacks as terrorism : “Our research focuses only on incidents of terrorism, which we define as attacks or plots by a nonstate actor attempting to achieve a political end and exert a psychological influence on a broad population.” They did not include riots or other similar acts of violence under their definition of terrorism. So pretty much all the mostly peaceful crap that went down from 2020 -2022 didn’t count even though this period of violence produced the most profound psychological effect for political influence I’ve ever seen. They also classified the Pelosi attack and MN legislator attacks as ”right-wing”. In the end the article makes it look like this is a recent shift that just started this year and is attributed to the Trump election. I’ll disagree. Their conclusions still massively understate the problem.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:26 pm to Uroblast
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So pretty much all the mostly peaceful crap that went down from 2020 -2022 didn’t count even though
Of course it didn't count
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hey also classified the Pelosi attack and MN legislator attacks as ”right-wing
Of course they did - Just ignore the Nudist with the Black Lives Matter sign on his house and the guy being appointed by Tim Waltz
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n the end the article makes it look like this is a recent shift that just started this year and is attributed to the Trump election. I’ll disagree. Their conclusions still massively understate the problem.
Oh of course they did
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