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re: The dad knew Ahmaud previously
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
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and the other cell phone evidence that hasn't been released shows Arbery attacking - according to Georgia law that constitutes self-defense.
I'm certainly no expert in Georgia law, but this doesn't seem right. Not for Georgia or anywhere else really. Not merely charging and attacking with hands only anyway. If that were the case then every non-aggressor in your routine fist fight would have legal authority to pull out a gun and blast away.
Incidentally, I believe the two were charging each other and the son was very surprised and frightened that the runner wasn't simply going to yield.
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to Caplewood
The dad absolutely did.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:51 am to The Maj
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All three will eventually be charged in this I am certain...
Show poor judgement at best on their part...
What are you going to charge the cell phone man with?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:52 am to imjustafatkid
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Did not happen.
This is pretty much a textbook ambush
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:52 am to the808bass
I honestly don’t know how you see that in the video. Seems pretty clear to me that they didn’t have guns pointed at him
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:52 am to ShortyRob
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Huh? Deceased literally directly engages him. He curves around the front of the truck to go for shotgun guy. There's literally no other way to see that element.
It could be a reasonable assumption that if he was being chased by a truck and men with guns their intent was to harm him and he had a choice of fight or flight and chose to disarm the man threating him with a gun because he would run a bigger risk of death by turning his back.
Putting myself in his position I might try to use the element of surprise and disarm the closest threat and maybe use him to shield me. I likely would die, but that's the calculated risk.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:53 am to Caplewood
i'm not a GA attorney and haven't read their caselaw, but within immediate knowledge means that you, effectively, be presented showing you a crime has been committed (with a pretty great certainty), within a very short timeframe of the alleged crime
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:53 am to Caplewood
The dad is tracking him as he runs around the truck.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:53 am to Caplewood
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They didn’t have guns pointed at him when he charged at them around the truck
Doesn’t matter, holding your gun, chasing a person, while angrily yelling at them is a crime..a serious one. Shooting a person who is in fear of their life, because you are chasing them, holding a gun, yelling at them is an even more serious crime.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:53 am to Caplewood
But the son had a shotgun in his hands....that cannot be construed any other way than overtly threatening.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:54 am to the808bass
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Don’t try to get all careful with words now. You claimed Ahmaud ran through his high school with a gun.
Oh excuse me. "Took a gun to school and then ran from the police." Huge difference there.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:54 am to Caplewood
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Seems pretty clear to me that they didn’t have guns pointed at him
elbow out is the classic gun posture
plus SOMEBODY had to shoot the first shot. the son would have had to shoot through the truck from his hip, basically
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:55 am to imjustafatkid
Did you read a police report on that case? All I saw was that he brought a gun to school.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:57 am to mtntiger
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Whether he knew the kid or not, it does not matter.
May make things worse for him. Might be considered premeditated.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 9:58 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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by an idiot with a bias and motive
god I hate the DOJ but i can't wait for them to investigate those a-holes
The statues are fake?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:58 am to Turbeauxdog
All statues are fake.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:59 am to the808bass
Dang it, and I even glanced back to make sure I said statutes
Enjoy your upvote
Enjoy your upvote
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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plus SOMEBODY had to shoot the first shot. the son would have had to shoot through the truck from his hip, basically
The first shot only came after ahmaud charged at, engaged with, and tried to take the gun from the man on the street.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
It’s an election year. We need MOAR race porn!
Is happy to oblige...
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SlowFlowPro
Is happy to oblige...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:00 am to the808bass
He was 19 and brought a gun to a high school he didn’t attend and fled when the police tried to stop him. Was eventually caught in parking lot I think it was a .380.
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