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re: The problem with this country is the freedom
Posted on 1/17/26 at 4:23 am to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 1/17/26 at 4:23 am to grizzlylongcut
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We’re a Christian nation but we allow people in our nation who would cut our throats as soon as look at us in our coasts in their thousands and their millions. Not only that, we pay for them to be here.
Here’s one thing we have going for us, no person I know would let some weak arse Muslim slit their throat. They would pummel said person. This isn’t the UK don’t bring your primitive Shiite here.
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:01 am to grizzlylongcut
You are partially correct. The problem is we allow too much freedom to outsiders. Non US citizens should not have the same rights as citizens. Non citizens should have a limited freedom of speech, freedom of assembly ( as in protesting ). Non citizens should not be allowed to speak out or protest the USA on USA soil.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:22 am to grizzlylongcut
Free speech has nothong to do with ILLEGAL immigration.
People should have the right to open their mouths and prove how stupid they are.
People should have the right to open their mouths and prove how stupid they are.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:23 am to grizzlylongcut
Freedom Isn't Free
Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:24 am to Juan Betanzos
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The problem with this country is evil people
The problem is stupid people. Evil people have zero power if stupid people aren't supporting them.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:33 am to grizzlylongcut
quote:Not if it is maintained as foundational to exchange of ideas, the questioning of them, the testing of them, and secondary improvement in application.
But it is going to be the cause of the downfall of this nation.
It's actually only when free speech and the exchange of ideas is contravened that the real trouble begins. Success of leftist screed depends on such contravention.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:38 am to grizzlylongcut
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We’re a Christian nation but we allow people in our nation who would cut our throats as soon as look at us in our coasts in their thousands and their millions. Not only that, we pay for them to be here.
The first allows unfettered third world immigration????
Posted on 1/17/26 at 5:41 am to Tigerlaff
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You are right, but the American conservative's mind is conditioned to think of "freedom" as an absolute good. The problem is that freedom is one face of a coin with the obverse side being "order." And if you're really honest with yourself, order is more important than freedom. Pure freedom is anarchy. America and its Constitution were a leftist experiment and for that reason its trajectory will always ultimately be to the left.
In large part that is well said, but I disagree on order being more important. I don’t think most conservatives care if libs and their ilk are godless, hedonistic and overly idealistic politically. It’s just the left can’t help forcing it on those who just want to be left alone.
Conservatives version of freedom would RESULT in order, though order itself is not the goal.
Liberals version of freedom is what you see in the streets of Minneapolis.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:36 am to grizzlylongcut
We don’t have a freedom problem. We have a problem with people who place their own desires to feel virtuous over their good sense reasoning for the country when they allow anyone in.
One of the absolute biggest lies ever told Americans is that immigration is what makes America great, and nothing could be further from the truth. Immigrants are made great by America, and only when they conform to America, not try to import their failed ideas from the failed country they left behind when they landed here.
One of the absolute biggest lies ever told Americans is that immigration is what makes America great, and nothing could be further from the truth. Immigrants are made great by America, and only when they conform to America, not try to import their failed ideas from the failed country they left behind when they landed here.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:40 am to grizzlylongcut
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The problem with this country is the freedom
JFC.
This board has gone full authoritarian. Two other threads want to arrest “peaceful protesters,” and now this one.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:41 am to grizzlylongcut
quote:- Benjamin Franklin
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
quote:- Thomas Paine
The greatest tyrannies are always perpetuated in the name of the noblest causes.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:42 am to Tigerlaff
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And if you're really honest with yourself, order is more important than freedom. Pure freedom is anarchy. America and its Constitution were a leftist experiment
It’s truly looney times on the PB
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:44 am to Juan Betanzos
AGREED ! ...and the debate, question is it the Democrats or the Republican EXTREME factions of their
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:46 am to Juan Betanzos
AGREED ! ...and the debate, question is it the Democrats or the Republican EXTREME factions of their parties are the MOST EVIL ?
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:47 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Non US citizens should not have the same rights as citizens. Non citizens should have a limited freedom of speech, freedom of assembly ( as in protesting )
Carry this thought out. Law enforcement sees a group of people peacefully protesting. But in order to do so, everyone must be detained and show their papers to ensure no one is a non citizen. Poof. Now even citizens can’t peacefully protest.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:49 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Non US citizens should not have the same rights as citizens. Non citizens should have a limited freedom of speech, freedom of assembly ( as in protesting ). Non citizens should not be allowed to speak out or protest the USA on USA soil.
Sounds kinda like slavery there, bud. Is that part of your family's heritage?
This post was edited on 1/17/26 at 6:49 am
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:54 am to grizzlylongcut
Our constitution was made only for a religious and moral people
It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other
John Adams
It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other
John Adams
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:58 am to MizunoDude
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Free speech has nothong to do with ILLEGAL immigration.
Freedom of religion could though. For both legal and illegal. Imagine the shitstorm if Trump said “ok, we’re no longer allowing Muslims to come to this country because their religion is a blight amongst liberty loving individuals.” Or if he also said “Muslims are no longer allowed to be here, they must go back to Muslim lands. Their religion is dangerous to this country.”
He would be 100% correct to do so, Muslims shouldn’t be here. Them and Christians cannot peacefully coexist. Mainly due to Muslims being a bloodthirsty, child raping, stupid bunch of people. But our first amendment would block him from such actions due to religious grounds, would it not?
Posted on 1/17/26 at 7:00 am to grizzlylongcut
The problem with this country is those legions of democrat liberal judges who are blunting President Trump's efforts to stop the marxist socialist LGBT agenda.
The only chance to reverse this trend is for Conservatives to pickup more seats in the House and Senate and kick the RINOs out of office. We know who the RINOs are.
The frustrating thing for me is people don't seem to grasp the danger we face with this move towards marxist socialism. You can vote marxist socialism in but if you don't like it you'll have to shoot you way out. (hint: apparently the Venenzelan people are overjoyed President Trump is moving their country away from marxist socialism).
Wanna see what thieving violent Marxist Socialist looks like in America? Take a look at Minnesota, California, and New York City. Minnesota has their Somali fake NGO's and their violent assaults on ICE Agents. California has their scheme to wrestle prime property in Pacific Palisades away from the property owners. Our pal Mamdani in New York City is confiscating rental properties from the landlords and handing them to squatters.
Theft and communism go hand-in-hand.
The only chance to reverse this trend is for Conservatives to pickup more seats in the House and Senate and kick the RINOs out of office. We know who the RINOs are.
The frustrating thing for me is people don't seem to grasp the danger we face with this move towards marxist socialism. You can vote marxist socialism in but if you don't like it you'll have to shoot you way out. (hint: apparently the Venenzelan people are overjoyed President Trump is moving their country away from marxist socialism).
Wanna see what thieving violent Marxist Socialist looks like in America? Take a look at Minnesota, California, and New York City. Minnesota has their Somali fake NGO's and their violent assaults on ICE Agents. California has their scheme to wrestle prime property in Pacific Palisades away from the property owners. Our pal Mamdani in New York City is confiscating rental properties from the landlords and handing them to squatters.
Theft and communism go hand-in-hand.
This post was edited on 1/17/26 at 7:31 am
Posted on 1/17/26 at 7:03 am to grizzlylongcut
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But our first amendment would block him from such actions due to religious grounds, would it not?
If freedom causes you this much anxiety and you’d prefer a government that protects you from all the potential scary shite that exists in this world….you’ve got a lot of options of where to live. However, America doesn’t seem to be the right fit.
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