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re: The PT feels like the OT with all warmongering for Israel.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:02 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:02 pm to lake chuck fan
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Strategically destroying an enemy's ability to create a nuclear weapon which they will send your way can hardly be described as a war. It's more of a strategically defensive move.
So Israel can terrorize other nations and have nukes but their victims can’t?
Israel shouldn’t have them either.
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:28 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Strategically destroying an enemy's ability to create a nuclear weapon which they will send your way can hardly be described as a war. It's more of a strategically defensive move.
So Israel can terrorize other nations and have nukes but their victims can’t?
Israel shouldn’t have them either
Who has Israel "terrorized"???
Are you fricking serious??? You don't see any differences in Israel and the religious lunatics in power of Iran????
Please.... I'm curious to hear how you justify this.
Sorry, I can't wait for ur reply. Smh....
The obvious answer left your fingertips as you typed your reply but somehow it escapes you!!!!
Israel isn't the country threatening to eradicate all Muslims in the Middle East.
That would be Iran, for decades has been crystal clear about their number one priority. Not seeking to improve the quality of life for their country and its people, not improving relations with other nations, not seeking better trade policies, nine of that. Iran's number one priority has always been to cause as much chaos and death within Israel as possible in the most cowardly way imaginable, hiding behind their proxy death cults who strap bombs to women and teenagers and blow up cafes, buses, and markets full of innocent civilians.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:43 pm to hansenthered1
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isolationist
Let's see where interventionism has gotten us with Iran:
-1953: The US and UK overthrow Mossadegh and installed the Shah as our puppet.
-1979: The Shah is overthrown after a quarter century of authoritarian rule.
-1980's: We ally with Saddam Hussein and provide covert aid and military support for Iraq in their two invasions of Iran, all while strengthening Saddam's position in his own country.
-1991: Our former ally becomes our enemy when he invades Kuwait and we fight a war to stop it.
2003: We begin another war with our former ally, this time lasting almost a decade.
2010's: The overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq leads to the rise of ISIS and their territorial control of much of the country.
Every single domino of this chronology could have been avoided or prevented had we not engaged in regime change in Iran in the 1950's and just minded our own damn business. Foreign policy interventionism creates more problems than it solves, especially in an area where there are no good guys.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:50 pm to LSUAngelHere1
Who would you like to see as president right now?
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:51 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
You replied to wrong person
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why did Iran fund terrorist groups?
I'll give you a hint. American foreign policy radicalized them
We stepped on their throat for decades
I wonder how we would feel if some country across the world was constantly overthrowing our government, assassinating our leaders, calling us evil, portrays us as cartoonish villians, uses another nation to attack us when we attempt to create nuclear energy...id probably be radical too.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:43 pm to LSUAngelHere1
I didnt reply directly to you. You are the OP. The post was for the thread.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:12 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Iran has for decades sought to undermine and attack the US
Other nations keep overthrowing other govts like Iran. Israel attacks them.
Yet you fall for the propaganda that Iran is bad
Lol.... No propaganda needed. Iran leadership has demonstrated for years they are lunatics wishing death to all infidels.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:23 pm to SCLibertarian
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Every single domino of this chronology could have been avoided or prevented had we not engaged in regime change in Iran in the 1950's and just minded our own damn business
You have to go back to the end of WW1. The middle east was divided up the way it was for oil. The Israelis fighting to regain their land from the Ottomans started in the late 1800's.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:29 pm to lake chuck fan
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Who has Israel "terrorized"???
The American soldiers they killed on the USS Liberty. 1000s of Americans on 9/11. Their own people through Hamas. Oh and they just attacked Iran.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:33 pm to TDTOM
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There is one country that is tactically striking military targets, and another that is lobbing bombs at citizens.
Israel is notorious for lobbing bombs at citizens
Just because they didn't do it this one time it doesn't make them some squeaky clean above the fray country
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:53 pm to dgnx6
quote:same as was done to them
They also hit residential areas in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa.
quote:They did hit residential areas this week when they started the current conflict
Just because they didn't do it this one time it doesn't make them some squeaky clean
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:57 pm to SCLibertarian
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1953: The US and UK overthrow Mossadegh and installed the Shah as our puppet.
-1979: The Shah is overthrown after a quarter century of authoritarian rule.
-1980's: We ally with Saddam Hussein and provide covert aid and military support for Iraq in their two invasions of Iran, all while strengthening Saddam's position in his own country.
-1991: Our former ally becomes our enemy when he invades Kuwait and we fight a war to stop it.
2003: We begin another war with our former ally, this time lasting almost a decade.
2010's: The overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq leads to the rise of ISIS and their territorial control of much of the country.
"It will work this time. Trust me bro."
-Bibi
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:36 pm to LSUAngelHere1
I don’t blame people that don’t want to fight other countries wars. I do have a problem with people that can’t understand the difference between Israel trying to protect its existence and Iran threatening to wipe them off the earth.
Israel isn’t perfect. It has its flaws but is a damn sight more civilized than the Crazies that run Iran. None of their neighbors want them to have nukes. Iran has already shown it will give their proxies weapons to destroy Israel. A nuclear Iran will use nukes as terror weapons.
We are lucky that Israel is taking out their nuclear program. We have not had to fire a shot in anger. If we provide defensive measures that saves lives. I am for that.
Israel has elections. Iran has mock ones. I’d much rather a stable Israel survive than one backed in a corner too.
Israel isn’t perfect. It has its flaws but is a damn sight more civilized than the Crazies that run Iran. None of their neighbors want them to have nukes. Iran has already shown it will give their proxies weapons to destroy Israel. A nuclear Iran will use nukes as terror weapons.
We are lucky that Israel is taking out their nuclear program. We have not had to fire a shot in anger. If we provide defensive measures that saves lives. I am for that.
Israel has elections. Iran has mock ones. I’d much rather a stable Israel survive than one backed in a corner too.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:46 pm to scottydoesntknow
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The fact that Boomers and Xers see themselves as morally superior to anyone is a laugh
Did Boomer and Xers kill tens of millions of people to consolidate power under the guise of equality?
No. But leftists did. We're morally superior to them.
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