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re: The Right is handcuffed by nostalgic and incorrect beliefs of how the Constitution works
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:08 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:08 pm to burger bearcat
Wow, just wow. Btw the constitution gives you the right to speak such ridiculous bullshite. Without it you may regret it, because my friends will eliminate you quickly if they take over. They want compliant sheep
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:45 pm to TutHillTiger
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Btw the constitution gives you the right to speak such ridiculous bullshite
Akshully - not necessarily. Admins can come in heavy handed whenever they want, for whatever they want, do away with any of your comments they want, and you have no avenue of redress over it. Certainly not based in the Constitution. Thankfully they don’t exercise that “authority” to any extreme extent - unless it’s deserved of course.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:52 pm to burger bearcat
The constitution was a firm foundation for the country.
We can't control how shitty the development on top of it gets, but we CAN come in and bulldoze that shite to the ground and build again on that firm foundation. No matter how shitty the builds on to of it gets, the foundation remains. We are in a Haiti level tenement at the top of this building at this point.
We can't control how shitty the development on top of it gets, but we CAN come in and bulldoze that shite to the ground and build again on that firm foundation. No matter how shitty the builds on to of it gets, the foundation remains. We are in a Haiti level tenement at the top of this building at this point.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:52 pm to Dontrelle Willetts
quote:Generally it only works with higher people. Higher people don't have to rule via brute force and mob rule.
Conservatives believe in the magical powers of a piece of paper.
The left understands that power comes from collective organizing.
Our English way of governing is giving way to the Third World way. Communists and other stupid people ruin everything.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:59 pm to burger bearcat
Actually, you can blame a shark for attacking you and your beliefs. Especially when the "shark" is a human with a brain and the ability to defy the God that created him or her.
In short you can tell me not to blame the dims but I will anyway. And you sir are a dim. You are part of the problem. I blame you.
In short you can tell me not to blame the dims but I will anyway. And you sir are a dim. You are part of the problem. I blame you.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:15 am to bhtigerfan
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Power grows out the barrel of a gun.
And we have a lot of fricking guns
That's why the left wants to take those guns away.
The Swiss (militia) Army is based on America's Second Amendment. Their yearly oath starts off with "Never again will so few rule so many."
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:01 am to TrueTiger
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If no one is willing to enforce the Constitution with violence, then it is only a piece of paper.
This should be obvious to everyone just based off 2020 and 2021. Locking people in their homes, Summer of love changed policing in cities and Biden ignoring SC decision on eviction stays. What more do people need to see?
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:19 am to Kingshakabooboo
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I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOUR ENTIRE PREMISE.
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The problem today is that it is no longer followed and we have traded individual states rights for a bloated federal government.
I feel like you both disagreed with me and then turned around and completely just made my point.
I never said that the ideas set forth on the Constitution aren't ingenious and an amazing thing.
My point is, we can't just be paralyzed in fear to actually enforce it. Otherwise it serves no value. The automobile is a great invention as well, but if I give a car to a gorilla, that car is just a hunk of metal to the gorilla. Just like our Constitution, it is only valuable to a certain kind of people who are capable of maintaining it (See Venezuala, Mexico, etc. Who couldn't maintain theirs)
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 5:22 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:24 am to Johnpettigrew
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This should be obvious to everyone just based off 2020 and 2021.
Exactly. I don't remember the Constitution jumping out if the National Archives to go and punish the politicians who were acting unconstitutionally.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:49 am to TutHillTiger
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Wow, just wow. Btw the constitution gives you the right to speak such ridiculous bullshite
No it actually doesn't give me any rights. It outlines the rights that were given by our creator, and that the government is supposed to recognize and respect (this is the social compact).
If Biden sent the FBI to our doors tomorrow for speaking out against his administration. Explain to me how the "Constitution" itself protects us from such actions? And if the Constitution itself can't protect us from such tyranny, then who would?
Everything you just said is exactly the point I am making about our perception of how "The Constitution protects x,y,z rights". This is not what it does, the Constitution is a contract that outlines boundaries, both parties still need to follow the contract for it to be in effect.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 5:59 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:50 am to burger bearcat
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Exactly. I don't remember the Constitution jumping out if the National Archives to go and punish the politicians who were acting unconstitutionally.
While right leaning does not hold a majority of the population according to national election numbers, we do control 80 plus percent of the land. We could use food, energy, and interstate commerce to negotiate more power. Why do we need to be “principled” and follow the Constitution when they don’t? I don’t think we need to be violent on street level.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:34 am to burger bearcat
No. The right is handcuffed by literal handcuffs. When one side has the full weight of the permanent government behind them, they can do shite the other side can't.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:37 am to Plx1776
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When one side has the full weight of the permanent government behind them
Sure, you are not wrong. But we have over time given up much of our leverage and freedom in exchange for some comforts and some "false sense of safetys". Look no further than the bullshite the TSA puts us through at the airport. Does granny really need to be felt up to get on a plane? We just sit their like paralyzed zombies and allow this bullshite.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:42 am to burger bearcat
Why you think the Left is so desperate to take away guns? It’s the last critical piece they need for the totalitarian takeover they desperately want
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:09 am to burger bearcat
If it is just words on paper, then so are laws on the books. Lets just have anarchy. After all it's just words on paper.
But I see your point to a degree. If one side is overstepping then the other side will have to overstep to beat them. This is not a valid argument if in fact that is what you are arguing.
I would argue that there are no countries with a constitution that is as balanced, well thought out in trying to keep the power in the peoples hands, and trying to limit the govt. The problem with the current state is that we have allowed govt to take many of these freedoms the constituion has bestowed on us. Congress has given the executive branch way to much power through the creation of agencies and allowing them to make law at their whim.
But I see your point to a degree. If one side is overstepping then the other side will have to overstep to beat them. This is not a valid argument if in fact that is what you are arguing.
I would argue that there are no countries with a constitution that is as balanced, well thought out in trying to keep the power in the peoples hands, and trying to limit the govt. The problem with the current state is that we have allowed govt to take many of these freedoms the constituion has bestowed on us. Congress has given the executive branch way to much power through the creation of agencies and allowing them to make law at their whim.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 8:04 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:10 am to burger bearcat
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In fact, I would argue that ironically the left has a much deeper understanding of the nature of the Constitution than the right
Well...you would be incorrect
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:24 am to Dontrelle Willetts
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Conservatives believe in the magical powers of a piece of paper.
The left understands that power comes from collective organizing.
Power comes from the barrel of a gun
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:28 am to burger bearcat
I dont post on this board much at all, hell i dont really even read this board much...however this:
Is absolutely the most insane thing I have EVER read on any board in the history of my time here as both a lurker and a registered member.
You have lost your damn mind, if you ever had a sound one.
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In fact, I would argue that ironically the left has a much deeper understanding of the nature of the Constitution than the right.
Is absolutely the most insane thing I have EVER read on any board in the history of my time here as both a lurker and a registered member.
You have lost your damn mind, if you ever had a sound one.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:28 am to Schleynole
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The left understands that power comes from collective organizing.
Power comes from the barrel of a gun
It's actually both.
You need organization and the barrel of the gun combined. Both of these by themselves are not worth much.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:31 am to DomincDecoco
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Is absolutely the most insane thing I have EVER read on any board in the history of my time here
I realize what I said is a little triggering, but put the emotions aside and think about what I meant.
When I say the left "understands" how it works, that doesn't mean they respect it. They just understand how to manipulate because they realize the Constitution itself is just a document, true power comes from leverage and conviction.
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