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re: “There is a childcare crisis in this country”
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:13 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:13 pm to Dawgfanman
Don’t have babies you can’t afford.
It’s. Not. Hard. There are many ways to prevent pregnancy.
It’s. Not. Hard. There are many ways to prevent pregnancy.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 10:14 pm
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:13 pm to Dawgfanman
If you can’t afford to pay for daycare or have wife/gf stay at home don’t have a kid.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:15 pm to Kingshakabooboo
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The child care crisis is that not enough mothers are able to stay home and care for their children as full time home makers.
I did it…my wife hasn’t worked for 17 years and she almost made 6 figures when she quit. I see a lot of brand new Yukons and Lexus is the Kid City pick up line.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:18 pm to Dawgfanman
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what’s the fricking crisis
I’d say it’s people having kids they can’t afford to care for.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:18 pm to Kingshakabooboo
The child care crisis is that not enough mothers are able to stay home and care for their children as full time home makers. My mom stayed home and raised me and my brother. Now she did eventually go into the workforce but it was after we were older and could watch ourselves and because mainly she was bored and just wanted to get out of the house and around more adults.
My wife stayed home with both our children until both were in school and then only went to work part time during the day so she could be there to pick them up from school.
Now we chose to not have as much material things to do that but overall it was the best decision we made as parents.
Unfortunately now parents can’t do that. It’s not a matter of forgoing some extra material possessions, parents today can’t afford basic necessities if both parents aren’t working full time all the time. It’s fine if a woman chooses to be in the workforce but economically now women don’t have the option not to. That is the real child care crisis and also bleeds into a myriad of other societal issues as welll.
This is PURE BS!
My wife stayed home with both our children until both were in school and then only went to work part time during the day so she could be there to pick them up from school.
Now we chose to not have as much material things to do that but overall it was the best decision we made as parents.
Unfortunately now parents can’t do that. It’s not a matter of forgoing some extra material possessions, parents today can’t afford basic necessities if both parents aren’t working full time all the time. It’s fine if a woman chooses to be in the workforce but economically now women don’t have the option not to. That is the real child care crisis and also bleeds into a myriad of other societal issues as welll.
This is PURE BS!
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:21 pm to lsufball19
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i'd like for you to point out to me in any of my posts where i have said the govt is the solution to the crisis.
My quote in the OP is from the debate. The moderator stated it before a supposed question. It was asked of two people running for elected office. The implication is that the govt must act on this crisis. If you agree they don’t, then we are pretty close to same.
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It's also not "my" perceived crisis. My kid is in childcare. We're fine. A lot of people aren't as fortunate,
So give them some help. This was asked of the VP candidates. Hell I wasn’t fortunate. My wife lost 6 years of her career to care for our young kids. I couldn’t afford it then.
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do you ever get tired of this tired argument you make in every thread about economic issues?
It’s not a tired arguement. These “unfortunate” people you know are trying to live a life they can’t afford currently.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:27 pm to AUJACK
quote:while I sympathize for you, I would guess you live in 3500sqft house, your wife works and drives a pretty new family vehicle. You probably bought a little more house than you could afford to keep with your buddies.
have to pay nearly $3,000 a month for early childcare. Lots of people these days can’t afford that especially when their groceries have doubled and their wages have been stagnant.
But the reality is you and your wife made those decisions. The society we live in sees, “not doing those things as unsuccessful” when the reality is just the opposite.
The most important things don’t involve how big the house or how new the car, but taking care and providing for family. Expensive houses and new cars is not the most important part of providing for kids
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:31 pm to Oddibe
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Expensive houses and new cars is not the most important part of providing for kids
Or vacations. I swear the average “middle class” family on my Facebook goes on 2-3 extravagant trips every year. But apparently can’t afford daycare.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:32 pm to Dawgfanman
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I have traveled a lot in this nation, admittedly I skip dangerous areas, I have yet to see mobs of uncared for toddlers and infants on street corners. Are we saying most of them are home alone?
If not, what’s the fricking crisis?
Impossible. How can we have a "childcare crisis" in this country when we have such a strong and influential "childless cat lady" electorate. Hell, we have one running for President...
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:38 pm to Oddibe
Most of this thread is saying “don’t have kids you can’t afford” but also is ignoring that our country has future jobs to fill and a birth rate below replacement level. Those jobs will need to be filled by the children of today when most of you are retired. And if they aren’t filled by American children bc having children in America is too expensive, they’ll get filled with illegal immigrants
Subsidize productive people having children to encourage good genetics and parenting for future generations
Elon is on the money when he says the collapsing birth rate is one of the greatest risks to our society. And a good portion of the current birth rate is driving us towards idiocracy. Everyone has taken the stance now that children are “your problem, not mine, you made that choice” when for most of human society children were looked upon favorably by others and they recognized the importance of children in future society
Subsidize productive people having children to encourage good genetics and parenting for future generations
Elon is on the money when he says the collapsing birth rate is one of the greatest risks to our society. And a good portion of the current birth rate is driving us towards idiocracy. Everyone has taken the stance now that children are “your problem, not mine, you made that choice” when for most of human society children were looked upon favorably by others and they recognized the importance of children in future society
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:41 pm to lsufball19
"it's expensive as shite. that's the crisis. There is a shortage of availability, so the providers can charge whatever the frick they want and they do"
Either you or your spouse stay HOME with the child!
Either you or your spouse stay HOME with the child!
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:42 pm to Upperdecker
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Most of this thread is saying “don’t have kids you can’t afford” but also is ignoring that our country has future jobs to fill and a birth rate below replacement level. Those jobs will need to be filled by the children of today when most of you are retired. And if they aren’t filled by American children bc having children in America is too expensive, they’ll get filled with illegal immigrants
This is what the crowd is missing. Intelligent, hardworking people hear you loud and clear when you say "don't have kids you can't afford." They look at the situation and realize it's becoming increasingly unaffordable to do, so they don't. The lowest of society? They don't give a shite. They'll keep having kids, you'll keep paying for them and their resources, then when we're on the brink of collapse you can wonder why hardworking Americans have been swallowed up trying to keep the horde afloat.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:45 pm to Upperdecker
quote:define not being able to afford kids. If having a big house and drive current model cars, without owning any of it, while contemplating having kids….absolutely ducking not.
Most of this thread is saying “don’t have kids you can’t afford”
But if kids are your future plans then live within your means and prepare for it.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:53 pm to AUJACK
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Unfortunately now parents can’t do that. It’s not a matter of forgoing some extra material possessions,
That’s called INFLATION and we’ve been sold to believe it’s a good thing.
It’s caused by deficit spending and zero % interest rates over a long time. When that happens rich people get more access to capital and make more money and then need to invest it in among other things, real estate.
Without sound money, just giving people more money causes more deficit spending and the need for lower interest rates and more inflation.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:04 pm to Upperdecker
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Everyone has taken the stance now that children are “your problem, not mine, you made that choice” when for most of human society children were looked upon favorably by others and they recognized the importance of children in future society
I’m saying people that can and are currently paying 3000 a month for childcare are not in a crisis. They could hire a teacher with 1-3 years experience to watch their kids in my area that’s an hour drive from a major city. That’s take home pay for one. These are people living in luxury (relatively) in need of perspective.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:17 am to Dawgfanman
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You choose to pay $3000 a month for childcare. I raised two kids, I have neices and nephews with young kids, none of them pay that much. Your high expenses are not a crisis for the country, they are a choice of yours.
I cannot control what I pay. When I was a kid my parents house cost a fraction of mine, along with every other fricking expense you can think of. I would love for my wife to stay home with the kids, but it’s not just about daycare Einstein, I want my kids to be educated. Could I save money by putting them in a shelter where they simply won’t die all day? Sure, in the frickin ghetto. My kids attend a place that educates them, it is not a fancy private school but it develops them properly. it is also not provided for free and since I don’t want them to be dullards when they reach kindergarten, I have to pay.
Must be nice to have raised kids when things were affordable. I don’t have that luxury.
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:21 am to Dawgfanman
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I’m saying people that can and are currently paying 3000 a month for childcare are not in a crisis. They could hire a teacher with 1-3 years experience to watch their kids in my area that’s an hour drive from a major city. That’s take home pay for one. These are people living in luxury (relatively) in need of perspective.
You are entirely delusional and I would be willing to bet your kids have long grown because your perspective is detached from the reality of currently raising kids.
Hire a teacher to privately come watch your kids
That would be more expensive than a daycare you imbecile.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:24 am to JumpingTheShark
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There is a childcare crisis. I have to pay nearly $3,000 a month for early childcare.
I help businesses set HSA and FSA plans, The annual average cost in Louisiana and Mississippi seems to be about 8 grand a year and I think that is too high. You are either full of shite or a fool.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:26 am to La Place Mike
That is for 3 children and my actual total is about $2,700, do I need to show you the damn bank statements? FFS what are we arguing about here? I don’t even live in a HCOL area. You’re gonna have a heart attack when you see rates in big cities.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:29 am to JumpingTheShark
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There is a childcare crisis. I have to pay nearly $3,000 a month for early childcare. Lots of people these days can’t afford that especially when their groceries have doubled and their wages have been stagnant. I am not a proponent of govt intervention on many things but if we could take the money we’re throwing at foreign bullshite wars and dumbass social programs that promote trans acceptance and put it towards helping get parents back to work by subsidizing childcare, I support it.
No, thanks. Cut the other spending on bullshite AND don’t pay for you to raise your kids.
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