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re: Three Texas cops arrested and charged with murder
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:29 am to Dex Morgan
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:29 am to Dex Morgan
quote:
You're not a true conservative since you don't believe in limited government. You think government agents should be able to use lethal force anytime they choose.
context my man - context
we were talking about what IS - not what might have been.
The mental institutions are not available - unfortunately, the cops have to deal with the situation they FIND.
I know of no other details of this other than what is in this thread at this point. Let facts be the determining factor.
But - just to say - the cops should have done something else now, because 30 years ago, somebody else did something we dont like now - is just stupid logic.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:29 am to Worthy Adversary
Yeah apparently some here would be cool with me taking out my Px4 and blowing my little cousin's head off if he throws his toys at me next time I visit.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:30 am to Dex Morgan
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You didn't even respond to the part about how this used to be done non-violently quite regularly when we had mental asylums.
I’ll respond to it, because I was there and voting. You are substantially right that we used to handle this with mental institutions, but that got waaaaay out of hand. Have you ever seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest? That was a critique of the system you want to bring back.
We went too far in getting rid of the mental health institutions, but they were so fricked up it was probably necessary. Now we need to reinstate them but with many more guardrails and less latitude for government to medicate people.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:31 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:They found a 46 year old woman who any one of them along could have physically taken with little to no effort.
The mental institutions are not available - unfortunately, the cops have to deal with the situation they FIND.
And shot her INSIDE HER HOME, from OUTSIDE her home. Beyond a close window, locked door, and a wall.
She couldn't have posed less physical threat to them if she'd been in another state.
And all 3 shot her. It's not remotely defensible.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:32 am to Dex Morgan
quote:When the standard is, "officer safety........ANYTHING that migth hurt me justifies discharging my gun"...........
Yeah apparently some here would be cool with me taking out my Px4 and blowing my little cousin's head off if he throws his toys at me next time I visit.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:33 am to Dex Morgan
I saw a dude get charged with battery with a deadly weapon for hitting someone with a glass candle
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 7:37 am
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:33 am to Penrod
quote:On the subject of mental institutions, I really don't know the right answer.
I’ll respond to it, because I was there and voting. You are substantially right that we used to handle this with mental institutions, but that got waaaaay out of hand. Have you ever seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest? That was a critique of the system you want to bring back.
Clearly, there was merit to the complaints about the "warehousing" of people. Then again, almost all of the people who used to be "warehoused" are now homeless.
Did we replace bad with worse?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:40 am to 2020_reVISION
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Should she have been shot? Maybe. Maybe not. But it was her own actions that created the situation that lead to her demise. It's never a good idea to taunt & attack someone with a loaded weapon.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:45 am to Dex Morgan
quote:Probably because it was not worth a response.
You didn't even respond to the part about how this used to be done non-violently quite regularly when we had mental asylums.
From the VERY LIMITED clip and info available, this appears to be an inexcusable mistake by cops. I'm willing to withhold judgement pending more information though.
Regardless, why don't you detail how this would have been handled in the 1970's?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:48 am to Dex Morgan
Get a life you dumbass anti cop I support blue go blue take you're arse to a city that's blue and lawless he'll they should arrest you throw you in jail
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:49 am to NC_Tigah
quote:It wasn't a mistake.
this appears to be an inexcusable mistake by cops.
Cops nationwide are trained that "officer safety is paramount" and thus, ANY risk of ANY injury to them justifies shooting.
Under such training, results like this are completely predictable.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:51 am to Jdillard343434
quote:
Get a life you dumbass anti cop I support blue
Are you conservative? If so, why are the police somehow the only "special" government agents who get a complete free pass?
Literally the most dangerous of ALL government agents, and they are the one group of government agents where we seem to forget why we are conservatives.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:52 am to NC_Tigah
I know exactly how it went. One of my friends has an uncle that worked at a mental institution in west TN back then. They literally had a human sized net that they would charge and wrap the person up in. Once secured they'd be injected with a sedative and hauled away.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:53 am to Dex Morgan
You know what's funny?
If the story in the OP was exactly the same, only the government agents at the door were IRS agents, or the FBI,
every conservative on this board would be out for blood.
Come on fellow conservatives. Pull the blue blinders off!
If the story in the OP was exactly the same, only the government agents at the door were IRS agents, or the FBI,
every conservative on this board would be out for blood.
Come on fellow conservatives. Pull the blue blinders off!
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:53 am to Dex Morgan
That was handled really bad. Not a good look for blue.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:55 am to Jdillard343434
quote:
Get a life you dumbass anti cop I support blue go blue take you're arse to a city that's blue and lawless he'll they should arrest you throw you in jail
Lmao. Bless your heart. I'm a conservative. You are not. A conservative believes in limited government. That includes agents of the government.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:57 am to novabill
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You miss the days when police could abuse citizens with less scrutiny
Are you delusional? Where did I say that?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:59 am to Dex Morgan
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Dex Morgan
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Once secured they'd be injected with a sedative and hauled away.
Checks out
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:00 am to Worthy Adversary
quote:Today it’s a hammer, tomorrow it’s a knife, eventually it becomes a gun. They did society a favor. If police approach you all you have to do is comply.
A fricking hammer!
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