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re: To the truly independent voters of the board
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:05 am to SleauxPlay
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:05 am to SleauxPlay
quote:You realize Harvard did a study that showed the media has been over 92% negative in all it's coverage of Trump?
Perhaps the most impressive aspect of his presidency has been his ability to cast the media as the enemy
And that even included Fox News skewing it with around 57% negative coverage or something like that.
They shite on him for the dumbest things, like ice cream and koi fish feeding. They were 100% on the Russian Collusion train, literally telling people every day that he was guilty, without proof. And when that was debunked, they jumped on the Obstruction train, again outright cheering for it all day every day.
There is no media objectivity. They are beyond hyper-partisan activists who on a daily basis consciously and purposely misinform, deceive, and fear-monger the public with the obnoxiously obvious intent of manufacturing synthetic opinions and beliefs in their viewers, and actively trying to sway people to be hardened Democrat activists filled with hate, anxiety, and fear.
If you can't recognize this, then there is something functionally wrong with your brain. Seriously.
If you're already a hardened Leftwinger, then you love it, because 95% of the media bombarding you with echo-chamber confirmation bias is probably delightful.
If you're a hardened Rightwinger, it's depressing, because you begin to loathe hanging your hat on one network with a handful of blowhards who promise a lot but never deliver.
But if you're a true Independent, looking for actual information and knowledge to base your decisions and beliefs on, you can't help but be pissed at the overwhelming amount of attempted manipulation through obvious hyper-partisanship, misinformation, fear-mongering, and blatant dishonesty perpetuated on the Left.
It needs to be corrected. The media are no longer being journalists who deliver truth and knowledge to and for the average person. They are elitist activists with an agenda of fear-mongering/hate-mongering this country into fundamental change away from a Constitutional Republic and towards Statism, and all at the behest of Collectivists, Globalists, and Corporate Interests.
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:06 am to SleauxPlay
quote:You are a delusional retard.
Trump has destroyed the R party and it will take them ~10 years to regain credibility. He has operated straight from the dictator playbook and his most ardent supporters are literally too stupid to recognize it. Perhaps the most impressive aspect of his presidency has been his ability to cast the media as the enemy, giving his moronic base license to never rationally evaluate any piece of information they find distasteful.
You are obviously uninformed, ignorant and unstable. Please just sit out this election until you get some mental help.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:08 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
You are obviously uninformed, ignorant and unstable. Please just sit out this election until you get some mental help.
I think he’s a real life shrink.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:13 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
What is your take on all of the current theatrics currently going on over the last three years?
Fake and gay soap opera to keep the discussion away from the real issues on which both parties agree: open borders, becoming Brazil demographically, and endless war.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:14 am to SleauxPlay
quote:
Trump has destroyed the R party and it will take them ~10 years to regain credibility. He has operated straight from the dictator playbook and his most ardent supporters are literally too stupid to recognize it.
You people!
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:15 am to LSU2ALA
quote:This has already been explained.
The whistleblower complaint is another issue. If the issues in the complaint are true, and that’s a big if right now and is something that has to be investigated, then I have real concerns about the fact they moved the report of the call from the normal place it would be stored to somewhere else that is locked down as that shows they felt guilt about the call and that maybe I misunderstood the intent of the call.
Back in 2017, somebody leaked to the media the physical transcripts of Trump's phone calls with the Mexican President and the Australian PM.
Soon after that, every call Trump had with another world-leader or important person, the transcription went into a separate system database with very limited access. Less important calls that didn't include major diplomacy or policy discussions went into the normal storage database.
The purpose was to prevent any more leaks. And this was the case with the Ukrainian President.
They had been already doing this since early 2017.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
I think he’s a real life shrink
I know a whole lot of idiots who have degrees. If he is actually a shrink, I feel for those who see him.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:18 am to SCLibertarian
quote:
I have never voted Republican in a general election since I've been able to vote. I voted Libertarian in 2004, wrote in Ron Paul in 2008 and voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and 2016. I will be voting for Trump in 2020.
Voted Libertarian since '98.
I'll vote Libertarian again and probably always will. However, this current climate makes it VERY appealing to vote for Trump.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:19 am to Homesick Tiger
I voted 3rd party in 2016 but I will vote for Trump in 2020. Pushing back on China, not starting any more wars while not being pushed around, making a stand on immigration, and economy is growing.
I also like that he doesn't waste his time with LGBTQ and abortion stuff. Let the gays be gay and let the people who want to get abortions get abortions. Keep trying to make Americans money and keep them safe. That's what matters.
I also like that he doesn't waste his time with LGBTQ and abortion stuff. Let the gays be gay and let the people who want to get abortions get abortions. Keep trying to make Americans money and keep them safe. That's what matters.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:19 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
hurting the Republican Party
I'm happy about this. The GOP needed an overhaul.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:20 am to Homesick Tiger
I'm not planning on voting but:
Both Dems and Republicans use investigations as campaign ads. I don't think an investigation should be opened into the conduct of any impeachable person without resulting in a mandatory vote at the conclusion. They need skin in the game.
Both Dems and Republicans use investigations as campaign ads. I don't think an investigation should be opened into the conduct of any impeachable person without resulting in a mandatory vote at the conclusion. They need skin in the game.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:20 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
I think he’s a real life shrink
Explains a lot. Shrinks are all nutz
Also look at his profile pic. Disturbing
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:21 am to Homesick Tiger
I recently switched from Republican to Independent so maybe I fit your criteria but can understand if I don't.
I left the GOP mainly due to what seemed like the tag team of D and R candidates and the media on Trump during the 2016 election. It was very obvious that neither party wanted to see an outsider elected.
Since that time, I have taken a step back to see the big picture and came to the realization that nothing REALLY changes between a Dem or Republican getting elected. Some big social issues get brought up and a lot of fuss over some other issues but that is about it.
If Republicans actually followed through with the values they run on (lower taxes, lower spending, less gov, etc.) I would firmly be a Republican. But they don't so I'm not. The 2 parties are almost one in the same at this point.
The latest Dem theatrics in Congress would outrage me if didn't seem like the norm for them now. The fact that most Republicans sit by and let it happen (or join in) just confirms my previously stated beliefs.
For 2020 I am square in the Trump camp. After that, I will have no clue what to do because I don't think I would be able to trust an established Republican candidate.
Edit:
I'm all for this.
I left the GOP mainly due to what seemed like the tag team of D and R candidates and the media on Trump during the 2016 election. It was very obvious that neither party wanted to see an outsider elected.
Since that time, I have taken a step back to see the big picture and came to the realization that nothing REALLY changes between a Dem or Republican getting elected. Some big social issues get brought up and a lot of fuss over some other issues but that is about it.
If Republicans actually followed through with the values they run on (lower taxes, lower spending, less gov, etc.) I would firmly be a Republican. But they don't so I'm not. The 2 parties are almost one in the same at this point.
The latest Dem theatrics in Congress would outrage me if didn't seem like the norm for them now. The fact that most Republicans sit by and let it happen (or join in) just confirms my previously stated beliefs.
For 2020 I am square in the Trump camp. After that, I will have no clue what to do because I don't think I would be able to trust an established Republican candidate.
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bmy
I don't think an investigation should be opened into the conduct of any impeachable person without resulting in a mandatory vote at the conclusion. They need skin in the game.
I'm all for this.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:22 am to cave canem
quote:
At this point no declared candidate fits the bill so I will probably just drink myself to oblivion on election day.
i will have more than enough drinks myself, but probably for different reasons than you. Sitting out is the worst thing you can do. or someone else said, "...Trump will carry my state, my vote won't matter." This is dangerous.
Consider your social and economic priorities, and cast a vote. The most important part is to put some forethought into it the vote.
...that sounds condescending. not meant to be, sorry for that.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:25 am to Homesick Tiger
I'm a registered Independent. I switched from being Republican my entire life earlier this year. I've never voted for a Democrat for President ever, though I have in a handful of State elections. I voted Gary Johnson in the 2016 Presidential election.
That all being said, I'm legit undecided right now for President. I've been in Biden's camp from the start and nothing he has specifically done has changed that, but this new round of investigations has pushed me to the undecided column.
I thought there was enough smoke surrounding the whole Russia thing that it wasn't a witch hunt and that the Democrats had enough there to support the investigations. I don't think this current situation is on that same level though.
After reading the phone call transcript, I think what Trump said looks pretty bad and our President shouldn't be prodding or encouraging a foreign country to investigate a political opponent of his, but the Democrats have blown the whole thing way out of proportion.
Not sure if I could ever push the button for Trump come election day...I'm pretty far away from doing that right now. But I'm definitely becoming a little more open-minded about him and about the election as a whole.
That all being said, I'm legit undecided right now for President. I've been in Biden's camp from the start and nothing he has specifically done has changed that, but this new round of investigations has pushed me to the undecided column.
I thought there was enough smoke surrounding the whole Russia thing that it wasn't a witch hunt and that the Democrats had enough there to support the investigations. I don't think this current situation is on that same level though.
After reading the phone call transcript, I think what Trump said looks pretty bad and our President shouldn't be prodding or encouraging a foreign country to investigate a political opponent of his, but the Democrats have blown the whole thing way out of proportion.
Not sure if I could ever push the button for Trump come election day...I'm pretty far away from doing that right now. But I'm definitely becoming a little more open-minded about him and about the election as a whole.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:27 am to BallsEleven
quote:
If Republicans actually followed through with the values they run on (lower taxes, lower spending, less gov, etc.) I would firmly be a Republican. But they don't so I'm not. The 2 parties are almost one in the same at this point.
Exactly. I truly believe they are the same party at this point.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:27 am to Homesick Tiger
You can always tell which politicians are in it for power and money, and not in it to better the United States' citizens. Without politics, their world crumbles. They have nothing to fall back on.
Looking at our political landscape today, the left epitomizes the career politician that can't make it in the real world.
Without politics, Trumps a businessman. He has a life outside of politics, which tells me he is not doing this to further his career, because he doesn't need it. The left does. I will be voting for Trump, as will my entire family, who grew up in a democrat household.
Looking at our political landscape today, the left epitomizes the career politician that can't make it in the real world.
Without politics, Trumps a businessman. He has a life outside of politics, which tells me he is not doing this to further his career, because he doesn't need it. The left does. I will be voting for Trump, as will my entire family, who grew up in a democrat household.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:29 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
I'm a registered Independent. I switched from being Republican my entire life earlier this year. I've never voted for a Democrat for President ever
quote:
I've been in Biden's camp from the start
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:31 am to BeefDawg
quote:
This has already been explained. Back in 2017, somebody leaked to the media the physical transcripts of Trump's phone calls with the Mexican President and the Australian PM. Soon after that, every call Trump had with another world-leader or important person, the transcription went into a separate system database with very limited access. Less important calls that didn't include major diplomacy or policy discussions went into the normal storage database. The purpose was to prevent any more leaks. And this was the case with the Ukrainian President. They had been already doing this since early 2017.
I haven’t seen this. If it is the case, then it’s not a big deal. They can certainly store those how they wish and if they wish to silo them all that’s fine. If this one was randomly done differently, that will be the issue. That’s why you investigate though. Do you have a link showing they moved to this new system? I haven’t heard that yet.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:32 am to SDVTiger
quote:
SDVTiger
For this election. I've supported Biden in this Election. What is funny about that?
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